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bf533 + usb ? - M B - Oct 16 13:30:00 2003



Hello Group

Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.

Any pointers would be a great help.

Best Regards
MB

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Re: bf533 + usb ? - Steve Holle - Oct 16 14:46:00 2003

I'm not sure about the BF533 but I know that the EZ-Kit for the ADSF-21161 has a USB port.  I think the schematics are available on-line.

At 07:30 AM 10/16/2003, M B wrote:
Hello Group

Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.

Any pointers would be a great help.

Best Regards
MB

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Re: bf533 + usb ? - Al Clark - Oct 16 15:33:00 2003

At 09:46 AM 10/16/2003, you wrote:
>I'm not sure about the BF533 but I know that the EZ-Kit for the ADSF-21161
>has a USB port. I think the schematics are available on-line.

All the new EZ Kits use a built in USB Emulator using a Cypress Chip
directly to the JTAG port. It is not an interface that is useful for
general purpose USB interfacing.

The schematics for this part of the board is usually not included in the EZ
Kit manual.

Our dspstak family of Analog Devices based dsp boards all have a USB
interface available for both program upload and user applications. We
currently support the ADSP-21161, ADSP-21262 & ADSP-2191. We have plans for
a Blackfin version next year.

Our boards use chips from FTDI. FTDI provides royalty free device drivers
for most OSs and basically the chip looks like a COM port. They are very
easy for our customers to use which is the main reason we chose these parts.
Al Clark
Danville Signal Processing, Inc.
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>At 07:30 AM 10/16/2003, M B wrote:
>>Hello Group
>>
>>Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
>>reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
>>Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.
>>
>>Any pointers would be a great help.
>>
>>Best Regards
>>MB
>>
>>________________________________________________________________________
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>>Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
>--------------------------
>Steve Holle
>Link Communications, Inc.
>1035 Cerise Road
>Billings, Montana 59101-7378
>406.245.5002
>
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RE: bf533 + usb ? - P S S B K Gupta - Oct 16 15:55:00 2003

One BF533 EZKIT board with USB port is available.
Check the following link.
http://www.analog.com/UploadedFiles/Product_Highlights/53772119225156ADSPBF5
33.pdf

With Best Regards,
Shyam.

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From: M B [mailto:]
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To:
Subject: [adsp] bf533 + usb ? Hello Group

Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.

Any pointers would be a great help.

Best Regards
MB

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Re: bf533 + usb ? - Brewster LaMacchia - Oct 16 16:20:00 2003

At 09:30 AM 10/16/2003, you wrote:
>Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
>reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
>Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.
>
>Any pointers would be a great help. Look at NetChip, there's an app note that either they or ADI did showing how to
hook up their USB chips. Regards,

Brewster LaMacchia

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Re: bf533 + usb ? - Jaime Andres Aranguren Cardona - Oct 16 19:36:00 2003

Good day,

Thet's true: the on-board USB interface on the EzKit
Lites is not intended for PC to DSP communication for
user applications, it is rather an USB emulator,
similar to the Apex kind of emulators from ADI.

We at SanJaaC Electronics have developed a very cheap
USB daugther board for the ADSP-21160-EZLITE, also
based on FTDI chips (like Al mentioned).

We could design yours for the BF-533, with a very
small price tag. Instead of moving to a somewhat
different platform for developing, you could continue
using the EzKit Lite, with added USB flexibility.

If you are interested, please contact me at Regards,

JaaC --- Al Clark <> wrote:
> At 09:46 AM 10/16/2003, you wrote:
> >I'm not sure about the BF533 but I know that the
> EZ-Kit for the ADSF-21161
> >has a USB port. I think the schematics are
> available on-line.
>
> All the new EZ Kits use a built in USB Emulator
> using a Cypress Chip
> directly to the JTAG port. It is not an interface
> that is useful for
> general purpose USB interfacing.
>
> The schematics for this part of the board is usually
> not included in the EZ
> Kit manual.
>
> Our dspstak family of Analog Devices based dsp
> boards all have a USB
> interface available for both program upload and user
> applications. We
> currently support the ADSP-21161, ADSP-21262 &
> ADSP-2191. We have plans for
> a Blackfin version next year.
>
> Our boards use chips from FTDI. FTDI provides
> royalty free device drivers
> for most OSs and basically the chip looks like a
> COM port. They are very
> easy for our customers to use which is the main
> reason we chose these parts. >
> Al Clark
> Danville Signal Processing, Inc.
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------
> Purveyors of Fine DSP Hardware and other Cool Stuff
> Available at http://www.danvillesignal.com >
>
> >At 07:30 AM 10/16/2003, M B wrote:
> >>Hello Group
> >>
> >>Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
> >>reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
> >>Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.
> >>
> >>Any pointers would be a great help.
> >>
> >>Best Regards
> >>MB
> >>
>
>>________________________________________________________________________
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >--------------------------
> >Steve Holle
> >Link Communications, Inc.
> >1035 Cerise Road
> >Billings, Montana 59101-7378
> >406.245.5002
> >
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Re: bf533 + usb ? - Jaime Andres Aranguren Cardona - Oct 16 19:38:00 2003

Hi,

The USB interface on the ezKits is not for user apps,
rather for emulation purposes.

Moreover, that part of the schematics is not publicily
available... ADI considers it propietary.

JaaC

--- Steve Holle <> wrote:
> I'm not sure about the BF533 but I know that the
> EZ-Kit for the ADSF-21161
> has a USB port. I think the schematics are
> available on-line.
>
> At 07:30 AM 10/16/2003, M B wrote:
> >Hello Group
> >
> >Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
> >reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
> >Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.
> >
> >Any pointers would be a great help.
> >
> >Best Regards
> >MB
> >
>
>________________________________________________________________________
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> >Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
> >
> >
> >_____________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------
> Steve Holle
> Link Communications, Inc.
> 1035 Cerise Road
> Billings, Montana 59101-7378
> 406.245.5002
>
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Re: bf533 + usb ? - Jaime Andres Aranguren Cardona - Oct 16 19:39:00 2003

I'd recommend you to go for FTDI chips instead. They
are very easy to use, and have royality free
drivers!!!

JaaC

--- M B <> wrote:
> Hello Group
>
> Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
> reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
> Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.
>
> Any pointers would be a great help.
>
> Best Regards
> MB ________________________________________________________________________
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Re: bf533 + usb ? - Kenneth Porter - Oct 16 20:47:00 2003

--On Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:30 PM +0100 M B <> wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a recommended interface or
> reference design to hook up a USB chip (likes of
> Cypress or Philips) with the BF533.

BTW, note that the 535 has USB on-chip, and just needs a Philips tranceiver to
connect to the bus. This has the benefit that you can isolate and bus-power
the transceiver using magnetic isolators (much faster than optos), protecting
you from ground loops and other electrical ugliness.






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host booting of adsp-2181 - satish kumar - Oct 18 2:49:00 2003

hi every one,

is there any one working with Host booting of
ADSP2181.
i have a problem.

i have configured my ModeA,ModeB ModeC pins as 1,0,1
respectively.

now can i interface a Flash memory and do in-sective
programming using BMS/CMS signals.

plz explain me,i am developing a prototype.

regards
satish
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Host USB chip with BF533 - Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie - Dec 8 6:03:00 2003


Hello

I have to connect USB devices to my EZ-Kit BF533, and I'm searching USB
chip to interface with BF533. The goal is the BF533 is the master and
I'm not working with a PC, (BF533 must be seen as the PC) so my chip
must work as master. Does anybody has experience or entries? Does
somebody know SL811HS from Cypress?

Thank's in advance






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Re: Host USB chip with BF533 - Leon Heller - Dec 8 16:28:00 2003


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:03 AM
Subject: [adsp] Host USB chip with BF533 >
> Hello
>
> I have to connect USB devices to my EZ-Kit BF533, and I'm searching USB
> chip to interface with BF533. The goal is the BF533 is the master and
> I'm not working with a PC, (BF533 must be seen as the PC) so my chip
> must work as master. Does anybody has experience or entries? Does
> somebody know SL811HS from Cypress?

The Cypress USB chips are OK, but I don't think that they have flash. The
Cygnal C8051F320 has flash memory, and is quite easy to use. It even has an
on-chip 3.3V regulator, which might be useful.

Leon
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BF533 and ADV7183 on EZ-Kit - Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie - Dec 8 18:11:00 2003

Hello

I've have problem to configure ADV7183, in order to manage PPI transfer.

It works fine the first time :

Configure Flash
Reset ADV
Configure DMA
Configure PPI
Configure DMA_ISR
Start DMA & PPI

My goal is to catch a picture, send it on a screen (via PPI bus, using
DMA) and after catch a new picture but I don't want to reset ADV7183
each time because I've to wait time to lock after reset !!!.

I tried a lot of thing such using TRAQ flag of ADV, stop transfer in DMA
interrupt, and enable again with ADV7183_OE, but it doesn't works. Where
I'm wrong ?

Does anybody can help me, any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Stephane





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Re: Host USB chip with BF533 - Jaime Andres Aranguren Cardona - Dec 9 3:57:00 2003

Hello,

Have your tried with FTDI chips, namely the FT245BM?
It's a USB FIFO which can be memory-mapped to the DSP.
I've used it attached to the External Port of an
ADSP-21160M with good results. A nice advantage is the
ease of use of the PC-side drivers, which can be found
on the manufacturer's site: www.ftdichip.com

Good luck,

JaaC

--- Leon Heller <> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie"
> <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:03 AM
> Subject: [adsp] Host USB chip with BF533 > >
> > Hello
> >
> > I have to connect USB devices to my EZ-Kit BF533,
> and I'm searching USB
> > chip to interface with BF533. The goal is the
> BF533 is the master and
> > I'm not working with a PC, (BF533 must be seen as
> the PC) so my chip
> > must work as master. Does anybody has experience
> or entries? Does
> > somebody know SL811HS from Cypress?
>
> The Cypress USB chips are OK, but I don't think that
> they have flash. The
> Cygnal C8051F320 has flash memory, and is quite easy
> to use. It even has an
> on-chip 3.3V regulator, which might be useful.
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller, G1HSM
> Email:
> http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
>
> _____________________________________
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RE: Host USB chip with BF533 - Vikas Chandra Rao - Dec 9 7:55:00 2003

C8051F320 has an USB funtion controller. It can't be used as a host. SL811HS
embedded host can be used for your application. You can also try for OTG
compliant devices(EZ-OTG) which can also be used to connect peripherals to
BF533. Also check for EZ-HOST devices which will act only as host.

Regards,
Vikas Chandra Rao.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leon Heller [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:58 PM
To: ; Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie
Subject: Re: [adsp] Host USB chip with BF533
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:03 AM
Subject: [adsp] Host USB chip with BF533 >
> Hello
>
> I have to connect USB devices to my EZ-Kit BF533, and I'm searching USB
> chip to interface with BF533. The goal is the BF533 is the master and
> I'm not working with a PC, (BF533 must be seen as the PC) so my chip
> must work as master. Does anybody has experience or entries? Does
> somebody know SL811HS from Cypress?

The Cypress USB chips are OK, but I don't think that they have flash. The
Cygnal C8051F320 has flash memory, and is quite easy to use. It even has an
on-chip 3.3V regulator, which might be useful.

Leon
--
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Email:
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller

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Re: Host USB chip with BF533 - Al Clark - Dec 9 14:22:00 2003

The FTDI USB chips are very easy to use due largely to their drivers. We
use them in our dspstak DSP engines.

However, they are not going to work in this situation since they are USB
peripheral devices. If the Blackfin is the master, then the problem is much
more complicated. USB - on the Go parts might be a solution. Cypress is one
of the companies with these parts Al Clark
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At 09:57 PM 12/8/2003, Jaime Andres Aranguren Cardona wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Have your tried with FTDI chips, namely the FT245BM?
>It's a USB FIFO which can be memory-mapped to the DSP.
>I've used it attached to the External Port of an
>ADSP-21160M with good results. A nice advantage is the
>ease of use of the PC-side drivers, which can be found
>on the manufacturer's site: www.ftdichip.com
>
>Good luck,
>
>JaaC
>
>--- Leon Heller <> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie"
> > <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:03 AM
> > Subject: [adsp] Host USB chip with BF533
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I have to connect USB devices to my EZ-Kit BF533,
> > and I'm searching USB
> > > chip to interface with BF533. The goal is the
> > BF533 is the master and
> > > I'm not working with a PC, (BF533 must be seen as
> > the PC) so my chip
> > > must work as master. Does anybody has experience
> > or entries? Does
> > > somebody know SL811HS from Cypress?
> >
> > The Cypress USB chips are OK, but I don't think that
> > they have flash. The
> > Cygnal C8051F320 has flash memory, and is quite easy
> > to use. It even has an
> > on-chip 3.3V regulator, which might be useful.
> >
> > Leon
> > --
> > Leon Heller, G1HSM
> > Email:
> > http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
>




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Re: BF533 and ADV7183 on EZ-Kit - ayyam perumal - Dec 12 1:47:00 2003

hi,

i already worked with adv7183 but with my own
developed adsp2186m board...

when we configure the adv7183 internal register
througn i2c communication,some register makes probs in
configuration...but if the register got one time
configuration then never come probs...i had so many
probs in configuring registers...

and also it is better u to have control on ISO
pin directly.always hardware control is comfotable
one.

i done this same application that u specified in
your mail,i.e capturing on picture and doing some
operation on that captured image..but i have control
with ISO(hard ware version of traq bit) pin..

with good regards
ayyams --- Stéphane_GOUEL_Arbos_Ingenierie
<> wrote: > Hello
>
> I've have problem to configure ADV7183, in order to
> manage PPI transfer.
>
> It works fine the first time :
>
> Configure Flash
> Reset ADV
> Configure DMA
> Configure PPI
> Configure DMA_ISR
> Start DMA & PPI
>
> My goal is to catch a picture, send it on a screen
> (via PPI bus, using
> DMA) and after catch a new picture but I don't want
> to reset ADV7183
> each time because I've to wait time to lock after
> reset !!!.
>
> I tried a lot of thing such using TRAQ flag of ADV,
> stop transfer in DMA
> interrupt, and enable again with ADV7183_OE, but it
> doesn't works. Where
> I'm wrong ?
>
> Does anybody can help me, any suggestions greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Stephane > _____________________________________
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RE : Host USB chip with BF533 - Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie - Dec 15 8:56:00 2003

Hello

Thank's for your answer. After a check, I have 3 references for USB
chip's working as host :
Philips ISP1161A
Cypress SL811H
Cygnal C8051F320

This research is for a student project (Engineering School). So,
throught this 3 chips, which one is the easiest to use, because students
have only 4 months.

Thanks in advance

----Message d'origine-----
De : Vikas Chandra Rao [mailto:]
Envoyé : mardi 9 décembre 2003 08:56
À : Leon Heller; ; Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie
Objet : RE: [adsp] Host USB chip with BF533

C8051F320 has an USB funtion controller. It can't be used as a host.
SL811HS
embedded host can be used for your application. You can also try for OTG
compliant devices(EZ-OTG) which can also be used to connect peripherals
to
BF533. Also check for EZ-HOST devices which will act only as host.

Regards,
Vikas Chandra Rao.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leon Heller [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:58 PM
To: ; Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie
Subject: Re: [adsp] Host USB chip with BF533
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stéphane GOUEL Arbos Ingenierie" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:03 AM
Subject: [adsp] Host USB chip with BF533 >
> Hello
>
> I have to connect USB devices to my EZ-Kit BF533, and I'm searching
USB
> chip to interface with BF533. The goal is the BF533 is the master and
> I'm not working with a PC, (BF533 must be seen as the PC) so my chip
> must work as master. Does anybody has experience or entries? Does
> somebody know SL811HS from Cypress?

The Cypress USB chips are OK, but I don't think that they have flash.
The
Cygnal C8051F320 has flash memory, and is quite easy to use. It even has
an
on-chip 3.3V regulator, which might be useful.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
Email:
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller

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