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Speech Noise - marzaq7 - Mar 6 6:55:00 2002



Hello all,

I need to generate speech noise. I know that speech noise is obtained 
by filtering white noise above 1000Hz at the rate of about 12dB per 
octave.

My question is what type of digital filter and coefficients do I need 
to use to the white noise above 1000Hz fall at a rate of 12dB per 
octave ?

Thanks !
	


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Re: Speech Noise - Marcio Zaquela - Mar 7 12:40:00 2002

Hi, thank you for your response.

The goal is to design an Audiometer that generates a sound noise called
"speech noise". It means to generate white noise (random numbers) and filter
it above 1000Hz at the rate of about 12dB per octave.

As you said, I need a Low Pass Filter, but the hard part is finding the
correct "slope" to get the 12db per octave.

Any guess ?

Regards,
Marcio

----- Original Message -----
> On Wed, 06 March 2002, "marzaq7" wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I need to generate speech noise. I know that speech noise is obtained
> > by filtering white noise above 1000Hz at the rate of about 12dB per
> > octave.
> >
> > My question is what type of digital filter and coefficients do I need
> > to use to the white noise above 1000Hz fall at a rate of 12dB per
> > octave ?
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
>
> Speech Noise? I can only assume you mean "White Noise in the Speech
Spectrum". The normal range of speech  is from 200hz to around 2000hz. A
quick test with a spectrum analyzer will confirm this.
> You will need a Low Pass Filter. The hard part is finding the correct
"slope" to get the 12db per octive. 12 db per octive will give it a very
steep slope. You won't have much signal left after a 12 db reduction. I have
a graphic eq if you need one to play around with. By the way, what is the
goal here? There maybe other avenues of approch to this problem.
>
> ET
>
	


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RE: Speech Noise - Egler, Mark - Mar 7 15:20:00 2002

Marcio,
 
If you design a second-order low-pass Butterworth "analog-prototype" IIR filter, which just about any digital filter design package can do, you should get 12 dB/octave slope since that is what a true analog 2nd-prder Butterworth will do. The digital IIR approximation of it will get steeper nearer the Nyquist frequency (sample-rate/2) due to the frequency-warping effect of the IIR design approach, but if your sample rate is much higher than the cut-off you should be OK.
 
Mark Egler
-----Original Message-----
From: Marcio Zaquela [mailto:m...@terra.com.br]
Sent: Thu, March 07, 2002 11:41 AM
To: e...@woodstock.com; a...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [audiodsp] Speech Noise

Hi, thank you for your response.

The goal is to design an Audiometer that generates a sound noise called
"speech noise". It means to generate white noise (random numbers) and filter
it above 1000Hz at the rate of about 12dB per octave.

As you said, I need a Low Pass Filter, but the hard part is finding the
correct "slope" to get the 12db per octave.

Any guess ?

Regards,
Marcio

----- Original Message -----
> On Wed, 06 March 2002, "marzaq7" wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I need to generate speech noise. I know that speech noise is obtained
> > by filtering white noise above 1000Hz at the rate of about 12dB per
> > octave.
> >
> > My question is what type of digital filter and coefficients do I need
> > to use to the white noise above 1000Hz fall at a rate of 12dB per
> > octave ?
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
>
> Speech Noise? I can only assume you mean "White Noise in the Speech
Spectrum". The normal range of speech  is from 200hz to around 2000hz. A
quick test with a spectrum analyzer will confirm this.
> You will need a Low Pass Filter. The hard part is finding the correct
"slope" to get the 12db per octive. 12 db per octive will give it a very
steep slope. You won't have much signal left after a 12 db reduction. I have
a graphic eq if you need one to play around with. By the way, what is the
goal here? There maybe other avenues of approch to this problem.
>
> ET



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RE: Speech Noise - Ricardo Pucher - Mar 7 23:17:00 2002

That wouldn't be a problem, considering you could use a Second Order
Butterworth filter. If you like to have two poles instead at 1000 Hz you
should try to discretizice a suitable two-pole function.

Remeber each pole adds -6dB per Octave.

Am I correct?

Lucas Pucher.
	> Hi, thank you for your response.
>
> The goal is to design an Audiometer that generates a sound noise called
> "speech noise". It means to generate white noise (random numbers) and
filter
> it above 1000Hz at the rate of about 12dB per octave.
>
> As you said, I need a Low Pass Filter, but the hard part is finding the
> correct "slope" to get the 12db per octave.
>
> Any guess ?
>
> Regards,
> Marcio
>
	


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