Greetings-

For those of you who teach an introductory DSP class (e.g., junior-level
course that follows a linear systems course), I am curious about textbook
recommendations.

We have been using DSP FIRST (Prentice-Hall) in our junior-level semester
course for the last few years, mostly because we REALLY like the variety of
the MATLAB-based lab experiments.

The use of music and image processing in the lab is very motivating to the
students, especially compared to the more typical and dry exercises in other
books.

However, DSP FIRST is not really intended for junior-level students and it
therefore has some shortcomings in its level of sophistication.

Is anyone able to suggest a good alternative?  Or at least a set of equally
exciting lab experiments that could be used effectively with a conventional
DSP textbook?  Or maybe we are OK staying with it...

Thanks,

Rob Maher

Montana State University-Bozeman

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Maher, Rob wrote:

> Greetings—
> 
> For those of you who teach an introductory DSP class (e.g., junior-level 
> course that follows a linear systems course), I am curious about 
> textbook recommendations.

I teach an introductory DSP course mainly focused on motor control.
My primary textbook is DSP First, but for a deeper theoretical understanding I
suggest that my students refer to Mitra's "Digital Signal Processing - a
Computer-Based Approach".
Warn you - it's a very thick book that delves deep into DSP foundations (only
10-20% of it is needed for an introductory DSP course); it comes with a CDROM
full of MATLAB examples.

Good teaching!
-- Carlo.

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Rob,
I have taught DSP at a senior/graduate level over 10 times and what you 
say is right.  The conventional graduate textbooks have a wealth of 
information but present the material in esoteric fashion - not easily 
digestible by the average undergraduate student.  In the past I have 
found the book by Proakis a little less dry.  For MATLAB stuff I have 
supplemented it with material from the purely "laboratory type" 
textbooks.  A search on amazon.com will uncover most of these books.

Mohan Krishnan
ECE Department
University of Detroit Mercy

Maher, Rob wrote:

> Greetings--
>
> For those of you who teach an introductory DSP class (e.g., 
> junior-level course that follows a linear systems course), I am 
> curious about textbook recommendations.
>
>  
>
> We have been using DSP FIRST (Prentice-Hall) in our junior-level 
> semester course for the last few years, mostly because we REALLY like 
> the variety of the MATLAB-based lab experiments.  
>
>  
>
> The use of music and image processing in the lab is very motivating to 
> the students, especially compared to the more typical and dry 
> exercises in other books. 
>
>  
>
> However, DSP FIRST is not really intended for junior-level students 
> and it therefore has some shortcomings in its level of sophistication.
>
>  
>
> Is anyone able to suggest a good alternative?  Or at least a set of 
> equally exciting lab experiments that could be used effectively with a 
> conventional DSP textbook?  Or maybe we are OK staying with it...
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob Maher
>
> Montana State University-Bozeman
>
> r...@montana.edu <mailto:r...@montana.edu>  
>
>  
>
>  
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Rob,

I have been pleased with:

Phillips and Parr, Signals, Systems, and Transforms, 3rd edition,
Prentice-Hall 2003, 
ISBN 0-13-041207-4

It is a classical text that covers both analog and discrete-time and we used
it for both semester courses (to save the students $).  Supplementing it
with MatLab exercises (which I also do) adds to the course.  There is a full
set of lecture notes for the analog portion of this text that came from
Washington University by Eve Riskin.  You can see the analog lecture notes
and some of my tutorials at my web site via my syllabus for EE301 at
Fairfield University:

http://doctord.webhop.net

DoctorD

Jeffrey N. Denenberg
Professor: Department of Electrical Engineering
Fairfield University
http://doctord.webhop.net 

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textbook recommendations

Greetings-

For those of you who teach an introductory DSP class (e.g., junior-level
course that follows a linear systems course), I am curious about textbook
recommendations.

We have been using DSP FIRST (Prentice-Hall) in our junior-level semester
course for the last few years, mostly because we REALLY like the variety of
the MATLAB-based lab experiments.

The use of music and image processing in the lab is very motivating to the
students, especially compared to the more typical and dry exercises in other
books.

However, DSP FIRST is not really intended for junior-level students and it
therefore has some shortcomings in its level of sophistication.

Is anyone able to suggest a good alternative?  Or at least a set of equally
exciting lab experiments that could be used effectively with a conventional
DSP textbook?  Or maybe we are OK staying with it.

Thanks,

Rob Maher

Montana State University-Bozeman

rob.maher@montana. <mailto:r...@montana.edu> edu

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This is an excellent book:
Understanding Digital Signal Processing: Richard G. Lyons 	
Author: Richard G. Lyons
Format: Hardcover, 736 pages
Publication Date: March 2004
Publisher: Prentice Hall
ISBN: 0131089897
List Price: $79.99
--- In d...@yahoogroups.com, "Maher, Rob" <rmaher@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings-
> 
> For those of you who teach an introductory DSP class (e.g., junior-level
> course that follows a linear systems course), I am curious about
textbook
> recommendations.
> 
>  
> 
> We have been using DSP FIRST (Prentice-Hall) in our junior-level
semester
> course for the last few years, mostly because we REALLY like the
variety of
> the MATLAB-based lab experiments.  
> 
>  
> 
> The use of music and image processing in the lab is very motivating
to the
> students, especially compared to the more typical and dry exercises
in other
> books.  
> 
>  
> 
> However, DSP FIRST is not really intended for junior-level students
and it
> therefore has some shortcomings in its level of sophistication.
> 
>  
> 
> Is anyone able to suggest a good alternative?  Or at least a set of
equally
> exciting lab experiments that could be used effectively with a
conventional
> DSP textbook?  Or maybe we are OK staying with it...
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rob Maher
> 
> Montana State University-Bozeman
> 
> rob.maher@... <mailto:rob.maher@...

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The Lyons book is a very good book but it is not a textbook.  There are no problems at the
end of the chapters, insufficient examples, and in a few places a little simplistic.  I used
the book for two years but the students did not like it for the reasons listed previously.  I
then changed to:

Introduction to Signal Processing
Sophocles J. Orfanidis
Prentice-Hall

The student seem to like this book better.

As I opened, the Lyons book is a good book, I would not want to discourage anyone from buying
it but if you want to use it as a text you need to do a great deal of work to produce
supplemental material.

Russell J. Clark, Ph.D.
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Saginaw Valley State University
989.964.4192
>>> "rcrestle" <r...@email.uc.edu> 10/23/2006 12:37 PM >>>

This is an excellent book:
Understanding Digital Signal Processing: Richard G. Lyons 
Author: Richard G. Lyons
Format: Hardcover, 736 pages
Publication Date: March 2004
Publisher: Prentice Hall
ISBN: 0131089897
List Price: $79.99
--- In d...@yahoogroups.com, "Maher, Rob" <rmaher@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings-
> 
> For those of you who teach an introductory DSP class (e.g., junior-level
> course that follows a linear systems course), I am curious about
textbook
> recommendations.
> 
> We have been using DSP FIRST (Prentice-Hall) in our junior-level
semester
> course for the last few years, mostly because we REALLY like the
variety of
> the MATLAB-based lab experiments. 
> 
> The use of music and image processing in the lab is very motivating
to the
> students, especially compared to the more typical and dry exercises
in other
> books. 
> 
> However, DSP FIRST is not really intended for junior-level students
and it
> therefore has some shortcomings in its level of sophistication.
> 
> Is anyone able to suggest a good alternative? Or at least a set of
equally
> exciting lab experiments that could be used effectively with a
conventional
> DSP textbook? Or maybe we are OK staying with it...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rob Maher
> 
> Montana State University-Bozeman
> 
> rob.maher@... <mailto:rob.maher@...

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I want to add my experience about the same book (Orfan), really a good book and I have
recommended this book as reference but student like it more as compared to other text books. It
has a lots of examples in C and Matlab (psedue codes are also given) and all supporting
material is avilable at book's web site. 
It contains a lots of good exercise problems and solved examples. Illustrations, graphs and
derivations are more comprehensive than any other text.


Humera Rafique
Department of Computer Sciences and Engineering
Bahria University, Pakistan.


h r
 

 
 
 


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Reply-To:
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To: d...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dspteachers] Re:
DSPTEACHERS: introductory DSP textbookrecommendations
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:28:07
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>The Lyons book is a very good book but it is not a textbook. There are no
problems at the end of the chapters, insufficient examples, and in a few places a little
simplistic. I used the book for two years but the students did not like it for the reasons
listed previously. I then changed to:
>
>Introduction to Signal
Processing
>Sophocles J. Orfanidis
>Prentice-Hall
>
>The student seem
to like this book better.
>
>As I opened, the Lyons book is a good book, I would
not want to discourage anyone from buying it but if you want to use it as a text you need to 
do a great deal of work to produce supplemental material.
>
>Russell J. Clark,
Ph.D.
>Electrical and Computer Engineering
>Saginaw Valley State
University
>989.964.4192
>
>
> >>> "rcrestle"
<r...@email.uc.edu> 10/23/2006 12:37 PM >>>
>
>This is an excellent
book:
>Understanding Digital Signal Processing: Richard G. Lyons
>Author: Richard
G. Lyons
>Format: Hardcover, 736 pages
>Publication Date: March
2004
>Publisher: Prentice Hall
>ISBN: 0131089897
>List Price:
$79.99
>--- In d...@yahoogroups.com, "Maher, Rob" <rmaher@...> wrote:
>
>
> > Greetings-
> >
> > For those of you who teach an
introductory DSP class (e.g., junior-level
> > course that follows a linear systems
course), I am curious 
about
>textbook
> > recommendations.
> >
> >
>
>
> > We have been using DSP FIRST (Prentice-Hall) in our
junior-level
>semester
> > course for the last few years, mostly because we
REALLY like the
>variety of
> > the MATLAB-based lab experiments.
>
>
> >
> >
> > The use of music and image processing in the lab is
very motivating
>to the
> > students, especially compared to the more typical
and dry exercises
>in other
> > books.
> >
> >
>
>
> > However, DSP FIRST is not really intended for junior-level
students
>and it
> > therefore has some shortcomings in its level of
sophistication.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is anyone able to suggest a
good alternative? Or at least 
a set of
>equally
> > exciting lab experiments that could be used effectively
with a
>conventional
> > DSP textbook? Or maybe we are OK staying with
it...
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rob
Maher
> >
> > Montana State University-Bozeman
> >
> >
rob.maher@... <mailto:rob.maher@...>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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