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G.729 Decoder Output - bine...@gmail.com - Jul 30 21:03:23 2006



Hi All,
     Now I am working with ITU-T's G.729 Recommendation.My input to encoder is one .wav file
and got .bit file as output. Then I gave this .bit file as input to the Decoder and I got a
.wav file as output.My first .wav(encoder input)file was properly work in Real One
Player(Others also).But the Decoder output was not playing.What is the reson for it? How I will
get a properly playing one? Then only I could evaluate the Decoder output.Please clear my
doubts.
Thanks in advance,
Bineesh Jose.



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Re: G.729 Decoder Output - sati...@rediffmail.com - Aug 9 8:46:19 2006

Hi Bineesh,
I guess my previous reply didn't reach to the yahoo group successfully. I will send it again.
Here it is.

The wav file that you create, might be having some header information. Which might looks
similar to this:-

RIFF2...WAVEfmt......."V..D.......fact....u......data........./S....

Starting from 'RIFF2' upto 'data' is all header information. This is required by the player to
play the audio. But G729 expects a raw file ie without headers. So, before passing this file to
the encoder, remove this header (RIFF2 to data). You can open the wav file in a (hex/binary
editor or msdev) and remove the header.

Decode the file and again add the header back into the decoded file. Now it should play back
the original audio. 

Let me know the results.
Thanks
Satish Pamnani

Hi All,
>     Now I am working with ITU-T's G.729 Recommendation.My input to encoder is one .wav
file and got .bit file as output. Then I gave this .bit file as input to the Decoder and I got
a .wav file as output.My first .wav(encoder input)file was properly work in Real One
Player(Others also).But the Decoder output was not playing.What is the reson for it? How I will
get a properly playing one? Then only I could evaluate the Decoder output.Please clear my
doubts.
>Thanks in advance,
>Bineesh Jose.



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Re: G.729 Decoder Output - ranjeet gupta - Aug 10 9:00:27 2006

  
Hi Bineesh / Satish

Bineesh check always the encoded data, if the encoded data you are getiing the 1/8th size of
the passed data then you can assume that 
data is encoded, if it is not coming then your encoder is not encoding properly, hence you need
to fix your encoder. (May be at the Computation of the LSF and LPC is wrong) But in your case
the encoder 
is correct as you are able to play back in the real player. :-)

Now if you pass the 1/8th size of the encoded data to the decoder
then the size of the decoded size should be same as the size of raw data which you passed.

Below diagram can explain.

Let say

raw data     = 80 bytes (size)
encoded data = 10 bytes (size)
Decoded data = 80 bytes (size)

Now as what you have said in your mail taht you rae able to play the
encoded data into the real player then this conclude that your encoder is correct. As Real
Player is able to play the encoded data. :-)

As your decoder is not able to play then there comes the many reason
why it is not decoding properly, Now to Dignaoss your decoder

First to check 

if your size of the decoded data is not macthing to the size of the
passed raw data then your decoder is at fail. (You need to Fix it)
check for all the algorthims closely.

Second to check

if your decoded data size is equal to the passed raw data  
then you need to include the header for the decoded data which 
you have to add arroud 44Bytes (I hope it is correct).

still it is not playing then your decoder is at FAIL.

HTH
for further querry you can mail us

Regards
Ranjeet Gupta

On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 s...@rediffmail.com wrote :
>Hi Bineesh,
>I guess my previous reply didn't reach to the yahoo group successfully. I will send it
again. Here it is.
>
>The wav file that you create, might be having some header information. Which might looks
similar to this:-
>
>RIFF2...WAVEfmt......."V..D.......fact....u......data........./S....
>
>Starting from 'RIFF2' upto 'data' is all header information. This is required by the player
to play the audio. But G729 expects a raw file ie without headers. So, before passing this file
to the encoder, remove this header (RIFF2 to data). You can open the wav file in a (hex/binary
editor or msdev) and remove the header.
>
>Decode the file and again add the header back into the decoded file. Now it should play
back the original audio.
>
>Let me know the results.
>Thanks
>Satish Pamnani
>
>Hi All,
> >     Now I am working with ITU-T's G.729 Recommendation.My input to encoder is one
.wav file and got .bit file as output. Then I gave this .bit file as input to the Decoder and I
got a .wav file as output.My first .wav(encoder input)file was properly work in Real One
Player(Others also).But the Decoder output was not playing.What is the reson for it? How I will
get a properly playing one? Then only I could evaluate the Decoder output.Please clear my
doubts.
> >Thanks in advance,
> >Bineesh Jose.
> >
> >



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Re: Re: G.729 Decoder Output - Jeff Brower - Aug 10 11:21:10 2006

Bineesh-

> I guess my previous reply didn't reach to the yahoo group successfully. I
> will send it again. Here it is.
>
> The wav file that you create, might be having some header information.
> Which might looks similar to this:-
>
> RIFF2...WAVEfmt......."V..D.......fact....u......data........./S....
>
> Starting from 'RIFF2' upto 'data' is all header information. This is
> required by the player to play the audio. But G729 expects a raw file ie
> without headers. So, before passing this file to the encoder, remove this
> header (RIFF2 to data). You can open the wav file in a (hex/binary editor
> or msdev) and remove the header.
>
> Decode the file and again add the header back into the decoded file. Now
> it should play back the original audio.

Satish is correct.  Here is a link that further explains Microsoft .wav
file format header:

  http://www.signalogic.com/ms_waveform.htm

-Jeff

> Hi All,
>>     Now I am working with ITU-T's G.729 Recommendation.My input to
>> encoder is one .wav file and got .bit file as output. Then I gave
>> this .bit file as input to the Decoder and I got a .wav file as
>> output.My first .wav(encoder input)file was properly work in Real
>> One Player(Others also).But the Decoder output was not playing.What
>> is the reson for it? How I will get a properly playing one? Then
>> only I could evaluate the Decoder output.Please clear my doubts.
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Bineesh Jose.



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