Reply by Jeff Brower June 20, 20022002-06-20
Oval-

Who are you? Why do you want to know? Does your company have a website? Do
you
work with a Motorola group that has affiliations in Russia, such as iDEN out of
Schaumburg?

Details about the Mot 56300 DSP saga are not something that I would post on a
news
group.

Jeff Brower
DSP sw/hw engineer
Signalogic Oval wrote:
>
> Hello, Jeff!
> You wrote to Todd Beekman r5aadn on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:31:19 -0500:
> JB> I'll never forget Mot's DSP meltdown in 1997. Super fine, super
> JB> bright people like Roman Robles, Paula Such, Avner Goren, David
> JB> Baczewski, Kent Heath, and many, many more scattered to the winds.
> JB> It was as if Mot execs actually sat down and said "Let's do the
> JB> exact opposite of Texas Inst, what do they know. And what's that
> JB> Internet thing, anyway?" An amazing example that Dilbert management
> JB> really, truly exists at the highest level of semiconductor corporate
> JB> management.
>
> I'd like to hear full lenght history of the whole 56K series, from 56001 to
> 56321T successor. Are there any articles in the Internet?
>
> With best regards, Oval. E-mail:




Reply by Jeff Brower June 20, 20022002-06-20
Todd-

> Jeff and Oval,
> Do you guys mind taking this conversation off-line? There are a lot of
personal opinions about this topic and there are 100's of
> different ways to tell this story.

Some readers might consider as valuable occasional, brief personal opinions from
someone who has been in the DSP community for 20+ years, worked closely with
executive level personnel at Texas Inst, Motorola, ADI, and Lucent over those
years,
has been/is running a growing DSP business in 2001 and 2002, *and still does
engineering work including writing DSP code for various processors from various
vendors*.

Jeff Brower
Signalogic
CEO and President

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oval [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:40
> To:
> Subject: Re: [motoroladsp] Access a 56311EVM from a PC
>
> Hello, Jeff!
> You wrote to Todd Beekman r5aadn on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:31:19 -0500:
> JB> I'll never forget Mot's DSP meltdown in 1997. Super fine, super
> JB> bright people like Roman Robles, Paula Such, Avner Goren, David
> JB> Baczewski, Kent Heath, and many, many more scattered to the winds.
> JB> It was as if Mot execs actually sat down and said "Let's do the
> JB> exact opposite of Texas Inst, what do they know. And what's that
> JB> Internet thing, anyway?" An amazing example that Dilbert management
> JB> really, truly exists at the highest level of semiconductor corporate
> JB> management.
>
> I'd like to hear full lenght history of the whole 56K series, from 56001 to
> 56321T successor. Are there any articles in the Internet?
>
> With best regards, Oval. E-mail:
> ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




Reply by Oval June 20, 20022002-06-20
Hello, Jeff!
You wrote to Todd Beekman r5aadn on Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:31:19 -0500:
JB> I'll never forget Mot's DSP meltdown in 1997. Super fine, super
JB> bright people like Roman Robles, Paula Such, Avner Goren, David
JB> Baczewski, Kent Heath, and many, many more scattered to the winds.
JB> It was as if Mot execs actually sat down and said "Let's do the
JB> exact opposite of Texas Inst, what do they know. And what's that
JB> Internet thing, anyway?" An amazing example that Dilbert management
JB> really, truly exists at the highest level of semiconductor corporate
JB> management.

I'd like to hear full lenght history of the whole 56K series, from 56001 to
56321T successor. Are there any articles in the Internet?

With best regards, Oval. E-mail:


Reply by Jeff Brower June 18, 20022002-06-18
Todd-

Are you and John former Blue Wave? John's name sounds familiar, like Mizar or
DNA
Enterprises or LSI or something.

Thanks for pointing out the recent 563xx new introductions. It looks like the
56321T
compares well with something like C5416; similar speed and onchip SRAM. I note
the
high status of the "position independent code" feature :-) What is the physical
size
of the FC-PBGA-196 package?

It will be interesting to find out about Mot's plans for multicore devices, and
catch
up on differences in power consumption, MIPS/mm density, and offchip SRAM and
I/O
support features between 5632x and C54/55xx devices.

As an aside, on a basic engineering level I'm happy to hear that, *finally*, at
least
there is something new. On a business level, it seems like too little too late.
Why
can't Motorola at least figure out how to make more noise about new DSPs? Does
Mot
CEO-level management *still* think the largest DSP customer is internal usage,
so
therefore no point in working with non-Mot telecom, speech, acoustic, and other
general-purpose customers? I'll never forget Mot's DSP meltdown in 1997. Super
fine, super bright people like Roman Robles, Paula Such, Avner Goren, David
Baczewski, Kent Heath, and many, many more scattered to the winds. It was as if
Mot
execs actually sat down and said "Let's do the exact opposite of Texas Inst,
what do
they know. And what's that Internet thing, anyway?" An amazing example that
Dilbert
management really, truly exists at the highest level of semiconductor corporate
management.

Jeff Brower
DSP sw/hw engineer
Signalogic Beekman Todd-r5aadn wrote:
>
> Jeff,
> We actually just release our DSP56321T (240MHz) a few months ago and the
DSP56321 a few quarters ago.
>
> 56321T site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=DSP56321T&nodeId\
M0ylgz6wYM98596
> 56321 site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=DSP56321&nodeId=\
03M0ylgz6wYM98596
>
> If you have more questions about our 56300 plans you can find the appropriate
contacts in the press release section of the Motorola DSP web site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeIdM0ylgz6wYM0yqlkb\
5n
> Regards,
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Brower [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 09:50
> To: John Edwards
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [motoroladsp] Access a 56311EVM from a PC
>
> John-
>
> Parallel port interface from MATLAB and Visual Studio programs:
>
> http://www.signalogic.com/univm56c.htm
>
> I thought that Motorola no longer makes the 56300 series devices, or at least
has no
> plans for improvements or new devices?
>
> Jeff Brower
> DSP sw/hw engineer
> Signalogic




Reply by Christian Langen June 18, 20022002-06-18
Todd,

what are the plans for the 56300 audio DSPs, especially the DSP56362 and
56364. They have been released some years before and I fear that they could be
discontinued soon....

Regards

Christian

> Jeff,
> We actually just release our DSP56321T (240MHz) a few months ago and the
> DSP56321 a few quarters ago.
>
> 56321T site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=DSP56321T&nodeId\
M0ylgz6wYM98596
> 56321 site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=DSP56321&nodeId=\
03M0ylgz6wYM98596
>
> If you have more questions about our 56300 plans you can find the
> appropriate contacts in the press release section of the Motorola DSP web
site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeIdM0ylgz6wYM0yqlkb\
5n
> Regards,
>
> Todd

--
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Reply by Christian Langen June 18, 20022002-06-18
Todd,

what are the plans for the 56300 audio DSPs, especially the DSP56362 and
56364. They have been released some years before and I fear that they could be
discontinued soon....

Regards

Christian

> Jeff,
> We actually just release our DSP56321T (240MHz) a few months ago and the
> DSP56321 a few quarters ago.
>
> 56321T site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=DSP56321T&nodeId\
M0ylgz6wYM98596
> 56321 site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=DSP56321&nodeId=\
03M0ylgz6wYM98596
>
> If you have more questions about our 56300 plans you can find the
> appropriate contacts in the press release section of the Motorola DSP web
site
>
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeIdM0ylgz6wYM0yqlkb\
5n
> Regards,
>
> Todd

--
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http://www.gmx.net


Reply by Beekman Todd-r5aadn June 18, 20022002-06-18
Jeff,
We actually just release our DSP56321T (240MHz) a few months ago and the
DSP56321 a few quarters ago.

56321T site
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=DSP56321T&nodeId\
M0ylgz6wYM98596
56321 site
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=DSP56321&nodeId=\
03M0ylgz6wYM98596

If you have more questions about our 56300 plans you can find the appropriate
contacts in the press release section of the Motorola DSP web site
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeIdM0ylgz6wYM0yqlkb\
5n
Regards,

Todd -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Brower [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 09:50
To: John Edwards
Cc:
Subject: Re: [motoroladsp] Access a 56311EVM from a PC John-

Parallel port interface from MATLAB and Visual Studio programs:

http://www.signalogic.com/univm56c.htm

I thought that Motorola no longer makes the 56300 series devices, or at least
has no
plans for improvements or new devices?

Jeff Brower
DSP sw/hw engineer
Signalogic



Reply by Edwards John-BLUW23 June 18, 20022002-06-18
Thanks Jeff,

The DirectDSP software looks just the thing, how much is it and can I use this
under Win2K ?

Unfortunately, I work for Motorola Computer Group, not the silicon group so I do
not know what the plans are for the 56K family.

All the best,

John -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Brower [mailto:]
Sent: 18 June 2002 15:50
To: Edwards John-BLUW23
Cc:
Subject: Re: [motoroladsp] Access a 56311EVM from a PC John-

Parallel port interface from MATLAB and Visual Studio programs:

http://www.signalogic.com/univm56c.htm

I thought that Motorola no longer makes the 56300 series devices, or at least
has no
plans for improvements or new devices?

Jeff Brower
DSP sw/hw engineer
Signalogic johned000 wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to access a 56311EVM from a C/C++ program
> running on the PC ? I would prefer to be able to do this via the
> parallel port to get the best performance.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> John Edwards




Reply by Jeff Brower June 18, 20022002-06-18
John-

Parallel port interface from MATLAB and Visual Studio programs:

http://www.signalogic.com/univm56c.htm

I thought that Motorola no longer makes the 56300 series devices, or at least
has no
plans for improvements or new devices?

Jeff Brower
DSP sw/hw engineer
Signalogic johned000 wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to access a 56311EVM from a C/C++ program
> running on the PC ? I would prefer to be able to do this via the
> parallel port to get the best performance.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> John Edwards




Reply by johned000 June 18, 20022002-06-18
Does anyone know how to access a 56311EVM from a C/C++ program
running on the PC ? I would prefer to be able to do this via the
parallel port to get the best performance.

Thanks very much,

John Edwards