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Want to Understand Convolution - Wendell - 11:05 12-07-03

I've looked at the equations for convolution and correlation and, yes,
I can work them. And I've heard that common illustration of clapping
your hands in an echo chamber. But I just can't get my brain around
just what it happening there.

Anyone know of a book giving a good intuitive grasp of convolution,
preferably with lots of handwaving, examples, and problems?

Cheers,
Wendell

Re: Want to Understand Convolution - Leon Heller - 11:45 12-07-03



"Wendell" <w...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c...@posting.google.com...
> I've looked at the equations for convolution and correlation and, yes,
> I can work them. And I've heard that common illustration of clapping
> your hands in an echo chamber. But I just can't get my brain around
> just what it happening there.
>
> Anyone know of a book giving a good intuitive grasp of convolution,
> preferably with lots of handwaving, examples, and problems?

I just found some neat stuff with Google:

http://www.jhu.edu/~signals/index.html

Leon
-- 
Leon Heller, G1HSM
l...@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller



Re: Want to Understand Convolution - robert bristow-johnson - 03:52 13-07-03

In article c...@posting.google.com, Wendell at
w...@yahoo.com wrote on 07/12/2003 11:05:

> I've looked at the equations for convolution and correlation and, yes,
> I can work them. And I've heard that common illustration of clapping
> your hands in an echo chamber. But I just can't get my brain around
> just what it happening there.

can you or have you gotten your brain around discrete-time convolution?
also, are you okay with the basic definition of a linear system (i.e.
superposition)?  (time-invariancy is actually an option here, but might be
nice to check out.)  that's a lot easier to understand and then to get to
the concept of continuous-time convolution, which requires all that fracas
about the direc impulse.  the impulse function in the discrete-time world is
easiest nontrivial function to get one's brain around:

           { 0     n not = 0
    d[n] = {
           { 1     n = 0

now, do you understand how *any* arbitrary discrete-time function can be
constructed from adding up time-shifted and scaled impulses:

           +inf
    x[n] =  SUM{ x[k] * d[n-k] }
          k=-inf

now ram that summation through a linear system and you get the Convolution
Summation which is the discrete-time counterpart to the Convolution Integral
in the continuous-time context.

that wasn't too hard, was it?

r b-j


Re: Want to Understand Convolution - Rick Armstrong - 19:15 14-07-03

Hi Wendell,

> a book giving a good intuitive
> grasp of convolution,

I highly recommend "Understanding Digital Signal Processing" by Richard
Lyons. It's a fun read.

Also, for less math and some really _good_ handwaving, there's "The
Scientist and Engineer's Guide to Digital Signal Processing" by  Steven W.
Smith. Dr. Smith has very kindly placed his book online at www.dspguide.com.


HTH

Rick Armstrong

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