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Discussion Groups | Comp.DSP | Cascaded Integrator Comb and aliasing experts please help!

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Cascaded Integrator Comb and aliasing experts please help! - David Joseph Bonnici - 2004-06-04 05:07:00

Please refer to 
www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn3651.pdf
page 10 top and page 9 bottom.

Please correct me if I assume something wrong.

On figure 12 (pg 10) you see the aliasing profile of the CIC and how
it does it translate to baseband. The filters performance can
therefore be estimated. Quite understandable and easily programmable.
(and it does apply to all multirate filters)

Now the question is: How are you going to see the aliasing profile due
to cascaded multirate stages so as to get the equivalent of Figure 11?

I do not think that it makes sense to obtain the aliasing profile of
each filter on its own and then sum up ?

DJB
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Re: Cascaded Integrator Comb and aliasing experts please help! - Ray Andraka - 2004-06-04 14:26:00



Refer each filter to the highest sample rate in the system (the input
sample rate in a decimator), then you can add up the individual filters.
To refer the filter, insert r-1 zero's between each coeffcient where r is
the sample rate ratio.  The spectrum of the referred filter will be the
original filter replicated R times.

David Joseph Bonnici wrote:

> Please refer to
> www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn3651.pdf
> page 10 top and page 9 bottom.
>
> Please correct me if I assume something wrong.
>
> On figure 12 (pg 10) you see the aliasing profile of the CIC and how
> it does it translate to baseband. The filters performance can
> therefore be estimated. Quite understandable and easily programmable.
> (and it does apply to all multirate filters)
>
> Now the question is: How are you going to see the aliasing profile due
> to cascaded multirate stages so as to get the equivalent of Figure 11?
>
> I do not think that it makes sense to obtain the aliasing profile of
> each filter on its own and then sum up ?
>
> DJB

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Re: Cascaded Integrator Comb and aliasing experts please help! - David Joseph Bonnici - 2004-06-04 21:38:00

I made a mistake. I assummed that by convoluting the impluse response
of the three cascaded filters would give the equivalent low pass
filter appearing on the low frequency side. That is not correct.

Can someone suggest me how to do this please and I promise that if I
understand I will not disturb anymore on this subject

David
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Re: Cascaded Integrator Comb and aliasing experts please help! - Jerry Avins - 2004-06-04 22:08:00

David Joseph Bonnici wrote:

> I made a mistake. I assummed that by convoluting the impluse response
> of the three cascaded filters would give the equivalent low pass
> filter appearing on the low frequency side. That is not correct.
> 
> Can someone suggest me how to do this please and I promise that if I
> understand I will not disturb anymore on this subject
> 
> David

What part of Andraka's message did you not follow?

If answering questions disturbed those who do, they wouldn't. Feel
welcome.

Jerry
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