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Discussion Groups | Comp.DSP | from state space to arma

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from state space to arma - ekomninos - 2008-05-02 05:54:00

Hi all,
I would be greatfull if someone could advice me on the following problem.
I have a state space model with matrices A,B,C (x(k+1)=Ax(k)+Bu(k),state
eq. y(k)=Cx(k)) how can from this state space form to pass in a form of
arma.Can i use rls to estimate arma coefs?
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Re: from state space to arma - Randy Yates - 2008-05-02 07:38:00



"ekomninos" <e...@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi all,
> I would be greatfull if someone could advice me on the following problem.
> I have a state space model with matrices A,B,C (x(k+1)=Ax(k)+Bu(k),state
> eq. y(k)=Cx(k)) how can from this state space form to pass in a form of
> arma.Can i use rls to estimate arma coefs?

See [brogan] chapter 15.

--Randy


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  title = "Modern Control Theory",
  author = "William L. Brogan",
  publisher = "Prentice-Hall",
  edition = "second",
  year = "1985"}


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Re: from state space to arma - 2008-05-02 18:29:00

On May 2, 9:54 pm, "ekomninos" <ekomni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I would be greatfull if someone could advice me on the following problem.
> I have a state space model with matrices A,B,C (x(k+1)=Ax(k)+Bu(k),state
> eq. y(k)=Cx(k)) how can from this state space form to pass in a form of
> arma.Can i use rls to estimate arma coefs?

Easy peasy...

Transfer function is

G(z) = C(zI-A)^-1B

That should give you your ARMA (transfer function) model.

K.
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Re: from state space to arma - pnachtwey - 2008-05-02 21:21:00

On May 2, 2:54=A0am, "ekomninos" <ekomni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can i use rls to estimate arma coefs?
Yes, that will work in some controlled applications.  I would use a
minimizing routine.  Scilab has optim and lsqrsolve.  lsqrsolve is
what you want to use because it will reduce the errors between vectors
of actual and estimated values very efficiently.

Peter Nachtwey





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Re: from state space to arma - ekomninos - 2008-05-04 12:59:00

and what if i had state space system of the form x(k+1)=Ax(k)+w
y(k)=Cx(k)+v with A a nonlinear state transition matrix?
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Re: from state space to arma - ekomninos - 2008-05-05 05:12:00

how does w and v affect ar and ma coeffs?
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Re: from state space to arma - ekomninos - 2008-05-05 07:52:00

how does w and v affect ar and ma coeffs?
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