Cascaded Integrator Comb and aliasing experts please help!

Started by David Joseph Bonnici in comp.dsp15 years ago 3 replies

Please refer to www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn3651.pdf page 10 top and page 9 bottom. Please correct me if I assume something wrong. On...

Please refer to www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn3651.pdf page 10 top and page 9 bottom. Please correct me if I assume something wrong. On figure 12 (pg 10) you see the aliasing profile of the CIC and how it does it translate to baseband. The filters performance can therefore be estimated. Quite understandable and easily programmable. (and it does apply to all multirate filters) Now the q...


How to prevent aliasing caused by non-linear function implemented in the digital domain

Started by Mark in comp.dsp13 years ago 15 replies

How to prevent aliasing caused by non-linear function implemented in the digital domain Consider an audio input signal band limited to 20...

How to prevent aliasing caused by non-linear function implemented in the digital domain Consider an audio input signal band limited to 20 kHz and sampled at 44.1 kHz for example. No problem. But suppose I want to implement a limiter or other non-linear function in the digital domain. The limiter will create harmonics that can exceed 22 kHz and will therefore cause aliasing. Even if ...


Aliasing and Sampling Prog question

Started by Rimmer in comp.dsp14 years ago 2 replies

I want to show aliasing and sampling graphically with spectra by using LabVIEW (or similar).Here is what I am doing I have a ficticious...

I want to show aliasing and sampling graphically with spectra by using LabVIEW (or similar).Here is what I am doing I have a ficticious sampling freq which is my 'analogue' signal - lets say I make it 500MHz. I then pass white noise through a narrowband filter centred at say 10.7MHz bandwidth 200kHz. I take the FFT and see the spectrum and its negative image - no problem. I add a sine w...


Anti-Aliasing filters with sigma-delta A/Ds

Started by HardySpicer in comp.dsp7 years ago 11 replies

Do you still require an anti-aliasing filter with sigma-delta A/D's? I am guessing yes but very low order. A/D I am testing seems to have an...

Do you still require an anti-aliasing filter with sigma-delta A/D's? I am guessing yes but very low order. A/D I am testing seems to have an excellent roll-off without any filter at all. Hardy


wavetable synth & anti-aliasing

Started by mudskipper in comp.dsp13 years ago 3 replies

hello, i'm trying to program a wavetable-based synth in c++. I have some waveforms and different envelopes for them and want to switch...

hello, i'm trying to program a wavetable-based synth in c++. I have some waveforms and different envelopes for them and want to switch between settings while playing. I use a 4096 samples buffer. My question is, how do i now implement anti-aliasing? I thought of multiplying envelope & waveform, and then lowpass and the resample with linear interpolation at a lower sample rate. Is it right, tha...


Nyquist and rectangular waveforms

Started by Bob Masta in comp.dsp5 years ago 23 replies

This is prompted by the discussion of aliasing in the thread "Higher upsampling with minimum phase downsampling produces more aliasing" by...

This is prompted by the discussion of aliasing in the thread "Higher upsampling with minimum phase downsampling produces more aliasing" by 'jungledmnc'. My question is based on the observation that sampled rectangular waveforms can be reproduced exactly, using a trivial D/A converter (strobed latch), with no need for an anti-alias / anti-image filter. The only requirement is that the sam...


Average the averages

Started by sorenbirk in comp.dsp13 years ago 3 replies

I am making an application where several inputs has to be filtered. The filtering is a simple moving average filtering with a variable...

I am making an application where several inputs has to be filtered. The filtering is a simple moving average filtering with a variable filter length. The problem is what happens when I connect these moving average filters in cascade? I know that I will get some aliasing, but how big is the aliasing problem? The scenario is as follows: The fastest sampling rate of the system is 100 Hz. I connec...


Multiple ADCs and aliasing

Started by Piotr Wyderski in comp.dsp2 years ago 71 replies

I have two 1MHz ADCs and would like to interleave them by a half of the sampling cycle in order to get a single ADC with effective sampling...

I have two 1MHz ADCs and would like to interleave them by a half of the sampling cycle in order to get a single ADC with effective sampling frequency of 2MHz (I want to oversample the signal by as much as possible). But the aliasing properties of the data stream will be as if the signal was sampled at 1MHz because the ADCs are independent blocks and don't influence each other, right? Bes...


Anti Aliasing of Arbitrary Waveforms

Started by Scott Gravenhorst in comp.dsp11 years ago 209 replies

What are the common method(s) for preventing aliasing of arbitrary waveforms generated within a DSP application? I understand that waveforms...

What are the common method(s) for preventing aliasing of arbitrary waveforms generated within a DSP application? I understand that waveforms supplied as analog signals and presented to an ADC must first be lowpass filtered to remove harmonics above the Nyquist frequency, but what about generated waveforms? I know about BLIT and it won't be appropriate for completely arbitrary waveforms. I'...


Beginner's question on undersampling and aliasing

Started by prad in comp.dsp12 years ago 36 replies

Hi all, I am a newbie to DSP. I have a huge number of data samples that I want to perform FFT on. But due to the enormous amount of the data...

Hi all, I am a newbie to DSP. I have a huge number of data samples that I want to perform FFT on. But due to the enormous amount of the data samples, I'd like to use only 1M samples and perform FFT. I know that this is severe undersampling and that it does not satisfy the Nyquist rate. But all I want is to prevent aliasing so that I can get correct information about the low frequency content...


Problem with Filtering .... resulting in Aliasing

Started by zara80 in comp.dsp11 years ago 2 replies

I acquired the data at 1Khz which is too high for my analysis purposes as i had to see the frequency response down on low frequency range below...

I acquired the data at 1Khz which is too high for my analysis purposes as i had to see the frequency response down on low frequency range below 25Hz. I have tried using matlab filter topic but when i am using decimate function in matlab (below), i am seeing the aliasing/folding affect. i really want to do just low pass filter the data and downsample to 25hz and take psd/ pwelch to show the...


Sound Card Question

Started by Shytot in comp.dsp14 years ago 1 reply

How does a sound card set its anti-aliasing filters? After all, you can program a sound card to read at say 44.1kHz or 22,050Hz or half of...

How does a sound card set its anti-aliasing filters? After all, you can program a sound card to read at say 44.1kHz or 22,050Hz or half of that again so how do the ani-aliasing filters change? Switched cap filters are sampled filters so they would not be good and digital filters are no good either as we need analogue filters jus before sampling. Shytot


How I can design real time dsp system

Started by pwaiaung in comp.dsp13 years ago 5 replies

Hello everyone, I want to design a real time DSP system.Band of interest extends from o to 4kHz.I will use 12 bit ADC and 3rd order butterworth...

Hello everyone, I want to design a real time DSP system.Band of interest extends from o to 4kHz.I will use 12 bit ADC and 3rd order butterworth lowpass filter. What I want to know is how I can estimate the minimum stopband attenuation for the anti-aliasing filter, minimum sampling frequency and The level of the aliasing error relative to signal level in the passband for the estimated Amin an...


Sampling a signal corrupted by AWGN

Started by RIMalhi in comp.dsp11 years ago 10 replies

Let us assume that we have a bandlimited signal (with maximum frequency f_n) corrupted by additive white Gaussian noise. Before we can sample...

Let us assume that we have a bandlimited signal (with maximum frequency f_n) corrupted by additive white Gaussian noise. Before we can sample this signal, we pass the signal through an ideal anti-alias filter with cut-off frequency f_c > =f_n to avoid noise aliasing. The output of the anti-aliasing filter is fed into a matched filter matched to the symbol rate, (1/T)> =2f_n (i used f_n here because


OT: Spacial aliasing (or so they claim)

Started by Jerry Avins in comp.dsp8 years ago 16 replies

A beautiful demo of many oscillators with a common sub-period: http://tinyurl.com/3ee2eya Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you...

A beautiful demo of many oscillators with a common sub-period: http://tinyurl.com/3ee2eya Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.


depicting the concept of aliasing

Started by Anonymous in comp.dsp7 years ago 5 replies

Sorry for this supposedly simple question. In Richard Lyon's "Understanding Digital Signal Processing" p.27 is there a y axis for Figure 2-2(c)?...

Sorry for this supposedly simple question. In Richard Lyon's "Understanding Digital Signal Processing" p.27 is there a y axis for Figure 2-2(c)? And if so, what is the unit of that y-axis? Thank you.


book recommendation please...

Started by Anonymous in comp.dsp12 years ago 9 replies

Hi all, I'm looking for a good textbook that serves as an introduction to anti- aliasing filters, Nyquist frequency, sampling rates, SNR, low...

Hi all, I'm looking for a good textbook that serves as an introduction to anti- aliasing filters, Nyquist frequency, sampling rates, SNR, low pass filter design, etc. Can someone please suggest a reference? Thanks in advance, -weg


Sampling Question

Started by Anonymous in comp.dsp11 years ago 9 replies

Suppose I take samples at once per minute for a data logger. Do I still need an anti-aliasing filter? The sampling freq would be 1/T where T=60...

Suppose I take samples at once per minute for a data logger. Do I still need an anti-aliasing filter? The sampling freq would be 1/T where T=60 secs...so how is this possible? The values of the capacitors etc would be hugh. Of course I could over-sample1000s of times...is this the norm? K.


image subsampling problem???

Started by walala in comp.dsp16 years ago 32 replies

Dear all, I want to ask how to downsample an image and avoid aliasing? How to make sure that an downsampled image can be reconstructed...

Dear all, I want to ask how to downsample an image and avoid aliasing? How to make sure that an downsampled image can be reconstructed perfectly? I guess I am too acquainted with time as my x-axis, now when it comes to 2D spatial domain, I get perplexed... Can anybody give me some enlightenment? Thanks a lot, -Walala


OT:Sampling in Stats

Started by HardySpicer in comp.dsp11 years ago 4 replies

When the Stats people sample data for analysis they have a load of rules for population size etc. However, they never have to filter the data...

When the Stats people sample data for analysis they have a load of rules for population size etc. However, they never have to filter the data first to avoid aliasing. Is this because the data is already in "digital" format? Hardy