Reply by Gary G October 20, 20042004-10-20
It is worth checking, but I don't recall any.

I'm very happy with the MOTU 896 that I have - it is
certainly not compact.
I have used the M-Audio Firewire Audio interface - very
compact and pretty descent quality. Still requires external
power supply. Connectors leave a bit to be desired - no XLR balanced
connectors.
But they are attacking price point.

Reply by Jerry Avins October 19, 20042004-10-19
Jon Harris wrote:

> Some are, some aren't. Pro audio devices often has substantial power > requirements, including the analog quality of the power.
It's worth checking, though, before you turn away. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by Jon Harris October 19, 20042004-10-19
Some are, some aren't.  Pro audio devices often has substantial power
requirements, including the analog quality of the power.

"Jerry Avins" <jya@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:2tl6vfF20qpfcU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Jon Harris wrote: > > > It doesn't have to be PCI, but that is preferred. External gear means
external
> > power supplies, more space, etc.. Not a deal-breaker though. > > Many USB devices are powered via the cable. I have a floppy drive like > that. A sound card should be no sweat. > > Jerry > -- > Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. > &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;
Reply by Jerry Avins October 19, 20042004-10-19
Jon Harris wrote:

> It doesn't have to be PCI, but that is preferred. External gear means external > power supplies, more space, etc.. Not a deal-breaker though.
Many USB devices are powered via the cable. I have a floppy drive like that. A sound card should be no sweat. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;
Reply by Jon Harris October 19, 20042004-10-19
It doesn't have to be PCI, but that is preferred.  External gear means external
power supplies, more space, etc..  Not a deal-breaker though.

"Gary G" <garyNOSPAM@gilbert-land.com> wrote in message
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> Does it absolutely have to be a PCI card? > You might find it much easier to get those features with > an off-board system using firewire interfaes. > Some excellent examples are M-Audio and MOTU (Mark of the Unicorn). > M-Audio is more affordable. > MOTU would have better specs. > > There are many others. > > Just a thought. > > Try www.sweetwater.com, www.washingtonmusic.com, American Music Supply, > etc.
Reply by Gary G October 19, 20042004-10-19
Does it absolutely have to be a PCI card?
You might find it much easier to get those features with
an off-board system using firewire interfaes.
Some excellent examples are M-Audio and MOTU (Mark of the Unicorn).
M-Audio is more affordable.
MOTU would have better specs.

There are many others.

Just a thought.

Try www.sweetwater.com, www.washingtonmusic.com, American Music Supply, 
etc.
Reply by Brian Aase October 15, 20042004-10-15
"Jon Harris" <goldentully@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I'm looking for a PCI soundcard for Windows 2000 with the following features: > >dual line level analog input (1/8" stereo jack preferred) >microphone level analog input (1/8" jack preferred) >dual line level output (1/8" stereo jack preferred) >digital input (S/PDIF optical or coaxial) >price <$150 US > >This is for work, so I don't care about gaming, surround-sound, etc. features. >I really just want clean analog audio quality and a digital input. 96K/24-bit >support would be nice, but not necessary. The main use is as a capture >front-end for DSP experiments, capturing the output of my algorithms running on >an external box (hence the desire for digital input), etc. I also want to use >it as a general-purpose sound card for playing back Windows alter sounds, etc. >I have been using the on-board audio on my PC, but I am finding that to be >limiting. > >Can anyone make a recommendation? It seems that digital outputs are quite >common these days, but digital inputs are less so. >
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Reply by Jon Harris October 15, 20042004-10-15
I'm looking for a PCI soundcard for Windows 2000 with the following features:

dual line level analog input (1/8" stereo jack preferred)
microphone level analog input (1/8" jack preferred)
dual line level output (1/8" stereo jack preferred)
digital input (S/PDIF optical or coaxial)
price <$150 US

This is for work, so I don't care about gaming, surround-sound, etc. features.
I really just want clean analog audio quality and a digital input.  96K/24-bit
support would be nice, but not necessary.  The main use is as a capture
front-end for DSP experiments, capturing the output of my algorithms running on
an external box (hence the desire for digital input), etc.  I also want to use
it as a general-purpose sound card for playing back Windows alter sounds, etc.
I have been using the on-board audio on my PC, but I am finding that to be
limiting.

Can anyone make a recommendation?  It seems that digital outputs are quite
common these days, but digital inputs are less so.