On 22 Aug, 20:51, Sebastian Doht <seb_d...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Thx Rune. Since I need to know more about the acoustic transmission
> channel and the acoustic front-end your list suffices to start with.
If you want to know about acoustics, add
Jensen & al: Computational Ocean Acoustics
to your list. The emphasis is on how to make
numerical simulators for acoustic transmission
channels, but in order to do that, one needs
to understand the physics of the medium.
I know of no other text that covers this as
comprehensively as this book.
But again, be cautious: Jensen & al cover only
what can be modeled by numerics. The stuff that
make the real mess during sonar surveys (dynamic
and unknown oceanography, waves, anything and
everything that exist in the water) is not covered.
Rune
Reply by Sebastian Doht●August 22, 20092009-08-22
Thx Rune. Since I need to know more about the acoustic transmission
channel and the acoustic front-end your list suffices to start with.
Reply by Rune Allnor●August 22, 20092009-08-22
On 22 Aug, 14:53, Sebastian Doht <seb_d...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am one of the more passive users of the group. Because of that I know
> some people here worked in the sonar field. I want to know what standard
> textbooks are there that someone should have taken a look at who works
> in that field?
> ( I have some experience in radar and lidar data processing so I am not
> � looking for some basic filter theory stuff but my background in
> acoustics is quite limited, since my studies were mostly focused on
> radio based measurement and communication systems)
It would be easier to come up with suggestions if
you stated more clearly what kind of problems you
work with. Fish mapping requires a different approach
than producing bathymetry maps.
For state-of-the-art *operational* work (as opposed to
R&D and more speculative stuff), the texts to start
with are
Urick: Principles of underwater sound
Waite: Sonar for practicing engineers
Lurton: An Introduction to Underwater Acoustics
Urick is the standard reference, and is needed for that
purpose alone: Just about every text refers to it.
Waite talks about the technical workings of the equipment
and how measurements are influenced by the environment,
while Lurton extends further into applications, about doing
actual measuerments, making maps, surveying the sea floor etc.
For the more specialist users, books like
Nielsen: Sonar Signal Processing
Burdic: Underwater Acoustic System Analysis
might become relevant.
Be cautious whenever you see the term 'model-based signal
processing' as in Candy's book. These methods are quite
popular in the community these days, but suffer from the
not all that insignificant shortcomming that they have never
been tested in double-blind experiments. Experiments at sea
are extremely difficult at the best of times, so anybody
who do one will bring in as many parties as possible to
maximize the outcome. So no one who get the data are truly
'blind'; they know something about the area etc. Second,
getting ground truth data is all but impossible, so no one
have ever been able to reject a method based on experiments,
since actually getting valid measurements is all but impossible.
Since no one can come up with better methods, no one can
reject proposed methods as 'do not work'.
Rune
Reply by Sebastian Doht●August 22, 20092009-08-22
Hello,
I am one of the more passive users of the group. Because of that I know
some people here worked in the sonar field. I want to know what standard
textbooks are there that someone should have taken a look at who works
in that field?
( I have some experience in radar and lidar data processing so I am not
looking for some basic filter theory stuff but my background in
acoustics is quite limited, since my studies were mostly focused on
radio based measurement and communication systems)
Greetz,
Sebastian