Grant Griffin wrote:

> Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:
> 
>>
>> Abandon your feeling of self importance and you will be free.
>>
> 
> But then I'd have to stop posting on comp.dsp again.  ;-)

Any plans about ScopeIIR ? :-)

VLV

Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:
> 
> Abandon your feeling of self importance and you will be free.
> 

But then I'd have to stop posting on comp.dsp again.  ;-)

Grant
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On 12 Des, 01:23, Rick Armstrong <bo...@email.com> wrote:
> Hi Rune,
>
> > What's your point?
>
> My point is this: if you were my coworker, and I walked into your office
> and asked a dumb question, I'd expect you to roll your eyes and point me
> to a relevant textbook. If you jumped out of your chair and yelled
> IDIOT!!!!!, I'd think you'd lost your mind (or that you were channeling
> Orson Welles). It's just basic civility.

I might have phrased it differently, but make no mistake
about it - whoever came into my office asking that particular
question would get face hard times. The question relveals a
level of sheer incompetence that is all out inexcusable for
anyone pretending, or being required, to possess DSP skills.

Rune

Hi Rune,

> What's your point? 

My point is this: if you were my coworker, and I walked into your office 
and asked a dumb question, I'd expect you to roll your eyes and point me 
to a relevant textbook. If you jumped out of your chair and yelled 
IDIOT!!!!!, I'd think you'd lost your mind (or that you were channeling 
Orson Welles). It's just basic civility.

Rick

 > I hope to meet him face to face this spring at a
> more-or-less impromptu comp.dsp conference he has agreed to host. Why 
> don't you plan to attend?

What, and have my head bitten off by a bunch of grouchy old guys?! :)

(kidding)

I'd love to attend (dsp, poker, guns!), but my work schedule is such 
that I won't know if it's possible until a couple of months right before.

Rick

On 12 Des, 00:15, Rick Armstrong <bo...@email.com> wrote:
> Hi Jerry,
>
> > The exchange between pinkisntwell and Rune is an example.
>
> So, I re-read this thread and I see that I've picked the wrong thread to
> bring it up. Still, it seems like I've seen a lot of this sort of exchange:
>
> confused> Oh, by the way, since the data is not cyclic,
> confused> I can't do Fast convolution via DFT
>
> not_confused> IDIOT!

What's your point? Do you agree with the poster, who
pretends to be a comms engineer, in that the data
not being cyclic excludes the DFT as a tool? Or dou
you agree that anyone who works with a rather advanced
comm protocol (OFDM) but have not learned one of the
most basic tools of the trade, is an idiot?

Mind you, the delusion the OP of that thread suffered
from was picked up here. While far from perfect on the
issue, the DSP texts tend to get the properties of the
DFT right.

Rune

Rick Armstrong wrote:
> Hi Jerry,
> 
>> The exchange between pinkisntwell and Rune is an example. 
> 
> So, I re-read this thread and I see that I've picked the wrong thread to 
> bring it up. Still, it seems like I've seen a lot of this sort of exchange:
> 
> confused> Oh, by the way, since the data is not cyclic,
> confused> I can't do Fast convolution via DFT
> 
> not_confused> IDIOT!
> 
> or
> 
> no_clue> So, I don't get it...
> 
> dsp_pro> YOU'RE A BIG STUPIDENT!
> 
> 
> It just seems like the tone here has dipped toward "schoolyard".

Well, Vlad is both sharper and shorter than need be and I've called him 
on it once or twice. I'm not about to push him away over what is in the 
end not inaccurate. I hope to meet him face to face this spring at a 
more-or-less impromptu comp.dsp conference he has agreed to host. Why 
don't you plan to attend?

Jerry
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Hi Jerry,

> The exchange between pinkisntwell and Rune is an example. 

So, I re-read this thread and I see that I've picked the wrong thread to 
bring it up. Still, it seems like I've seen a lot of this sort of exchange:

confused> Oh, by the way, since the data is not cyclic,
confused> I can't do Fast convolution via DFT

not_confused> IDIOT!

or

no_clue> So, I don't get it...

dsp_pro> YOU'RE A BIG STUPIDENT!


It just seems like the tone here has dipped toward "schoolyard".


Rick Armstrong

Rick Armstrong wrote:
>> but, pleeeeeze, don't bite the newbies.  it makes me cringe.
> 
> I concur. I haven't lurked on comp.dsp for quite a while. I recently 
> returned, only to find that 1) the SNR has gone down (spammers), and 2) 
> the /tone/ has gone into the toilet. I mean, I understand if you're not 
> interested in doing someone's homework, but FFS, it escapes me why 
> someone would expend the energy to be such a dick about it?

It's often the newbies who start it. It's sometimes is if you toss a 
beggar a buck and he berates you for his paranoid impression that you 
sneered while doing it. We were collectively berated one time by someone 
who didn't think his question was answered completely or promptly 
enough. He threatened to report us to the management for not doing what 
we were paid to do.

The exchange between pinkisntwell and Rune is an example. Rune was civil 
long after he couldn't be faulted for being otherwise. Pinkisntwell was 
too pigheaded (or swell headed) to see that Rune was guiding, not 
deriding him. It may be embarrassing to learn that one is completely 
wrong, but that'd no reason to lash out at the messenger.

Jerry
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> but, pleeeeeze, don't bite the newbies.  it makes me cringe.

I concur. I haven't lurked on comp.dsp for quite a while. I recently 
returned, only to find that 1) the SNR has gone down (spammers), and 2) 
the /tone/ has gone into the toilet. I mean, I understand if you're not 
interested in doing someone's homework, but FFS, it escapes me why 
someone would expend the energy to be such a dick about it?

Rick Armstrong