Reply by Stephen Turner June 19, 20032003-06-19
Shyju
The silicon rev on the DSP package (i.e 1.1) and the rev in the register
returned by CHIP_getRevId() are unrelated, in my experience.
regards
------------------------
Stephen Turner
AudioScience, Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shyju" <>
To: <>; "Andrew Elder" <>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [c6x] RTDX problem > Continuing our discussion about RTDX and chip version...
> I will list my findings..
>
> 1.I tried the software version for getting the Rev Id- that is
> CHIP_getRevId() CSL function on my C6416 chip .. which returned 1. More
over
> the return value of the the CSL call is of unsigned int which cannot take
a
> floating value(if chip is of ver 1.1 how it is reflected?). I have tried
> the CSL call on a 6201evm PCI ver (PC-P-86M-94V-0 ) which supports RTDX
> returned the value 2..
> 2.C6416 chip can be detected only using CCS2.2 and using sdgo6400_11
driver
> which is supporting RTDX.
> 3.It is written TMS320C6416GLZ
> D11 - 32A2YEW
> 2002 TI 62
> My doubts are whether any of this findings cofirms that this chip is of
> PG1.1 silicon? If yes why the chip is not supporting RTDX? Please explain
> it...
> Thanks in adance...
> Shyju > ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Elder" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [c6x] RTDX problem > >
> > Also, FYI a call to CSL function CHIP_getRevId() will do the trick.
> > The hardware way (below) is much simpler !
> >
> > - Andrew E.
> >
> >
> > At 10:22 AM 6/6/2003 +0200, Jean-Michel MERCIER wrote:
> >
> > >2 ways to identifiy silicon revision
> > >
> > >- The software way :
> > > * If you are using CCS 2.1x, then it is a 1.0x silicon revision
> > > * If you are using CCS 2.2x, you have a different driver
> > > for v1.0x and v1.1. So as said by Par, depending on which
> > > driver works for you, you will now the revision
> > >
> > >- The hardware way : it is simply written on
> > > the DSP
> > > The 1st line of the DSP should be something like TMS320C6415GLZ
> > > The 2nd line should be D103 - <numbers>
> > > This is a 1.03 silicon
> > > v1.1 silicon have <letter>11 marking at the start of the 2nd line
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean-Michel MERCIER
> > >
> > >--
> > >dsp & imaging - www.ateme.com
> > >ATEME - 26 Burospace - 91573 BIEVRES
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> De : Par Ligander [mailto:]
> > >> Envoy: vendredi 6 juin 2003 08:31
> > >> : Shyju
> > >> Cc : ;
> > >> Objet : Re: [c6x] RTDX problem
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Shyju wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Thanks for the fast response from P Ligander & Jeff Brower
> > >> >I have tried RTDX in 6416 TEB from TI and also the board we
> > >> designed using
> > >> >C6416( Part no TMS32C6416DGLZ6E3).How do I know the core is
> > >> PG1.1 silicon ?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> http://focus.ti.com/lit/er/sprz011j/sprz011j.pdf
> > >> Section 1.2 Revision Identifiaction
> > >>
> > >> Also, in CCS setup you should be using
> > >> "C64xx Rev 1.1 XDS5x0......."
> > >>
> > >> /Regards, P Ligander
> > >>
> > >> >Pls clarify. The C6x series is more exiting with it's uncaomparable
> > >> >features. But As a biginner I do have some difficulties in getting
> alonmg
> > >> >with C6416. Can any one send me any tutorial/Workshop material/
> > >> or any good
> > >> >pdfs on these. Now I am exploring the examples of the CCS studio.
> > >> > Thanks once again. Ur suggestions are very important to me...
> > >> >
> > >> >Shyju P.V
> > >> >ERDCI
> > >> >
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: "P Ligander" <>
> > >> >To: "Shyju" <>
> > >> >Cc: <>
> > >> >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:37 AM
> > >> >Subject: Re: [c6x] RTDX problem
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>Are you using PG1.1 silicon ? It is requiered for RTDX...
> > >> >>
> > >> >>/Regards, P Ligander
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Shyju wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>Hello friends ,
> > >> >>> I am new to C6x as well as to this group. I am working on c6416
> and
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >c6201 of TI with CCS 2.2.I had few prblem and I have described
> > >> it here. Hope
> > >> >any one will answer my questions. A hi to all the group members....
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>> I have tried our programs in TMS3206416 TEB with code composer
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >version 2.2. I have downloaded the drivers of XDS510PP for CCS 2.2
> from
> > >> >Spectrum Digital's website. We tried the programs in the
> > >> tutorial section of
> > >> >CCS. Even if they are working fine we can not see the EXE graph ,
STS
> > >> >details and LOG in real time. For seeing all those things either
> > >> we have to
> > >> >put a break point on the loop of execution or else we have to
perform
> the
> > >> >step through. Although in the Volume 4 example we can not create
> > >> a Channel
> > >> >for real time data transfer with target. We have tried this in TI
TEB
> and
> > >> >our board which uses the TMS3206416 DSP (Part no
> > >> TMS32C6416DGLZ6E3). However
> > >> >these programs are working in the 6201 TEB and we are getting
> > >> EXE graph and
> > >> >other things while the target is running.. We think the problem
> > >> is with the
> > >> >6416 chip. If we put break point in our program it spoils the
> > >> very purpose
> > >> >of RTDX. Since our design is based on C6416 it is a serious
> > >> problem as far
> > >> >as we are concerned.Pls!
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>> give us a clear answer to this .
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>The programs we tried are...
> > >> >>>Volume 1, 2,3,4 of the tutorial folder of CCS.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>Doubts are..
> > >> >>>1. In order to get the data from C6416 is it mandatory to pass it
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >through the break point.(Remember break point halts the target
> > >> for the data
> > >> >transfer to the host and refreshing all the windows related to CCS)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>>2. If RTDX is possible with C6416 can anyone gimme a simple code
> which
> > >
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >demonstrate the same.( Both host side and target side)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>>Best Regards,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>"You are not beaten until you admit it." -- George S. Patton,
> > >> >>>Jr.
> > >> >>>
> >
> >
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Reply by Shyju June 19, 20032003-06-19
Continuing our discussion about RTDX and chip version...
I will list my findings..

1.I tried the software version for getting the Rev Id- that is
CHIP_getRevId() CSL function on my C6416 chip .. which returned 1. More over
the return value of the the CSL call is of unsigned int which cannot take a
floating value(if chip is of ver 1.1 how it is reflected?). I have tried
the CSL call on a 6201evm PCI ver (PC-P-86M-94V-0 ) which supports RTDX
returned the value 2..
2.C6416 chip can be detected only using CCS2.2 and using sdgo6400_11 driver
which is supporting RTDX.
3.It is written TMS320C6416GLZ
D11 - 32A2YEW
2002 TI 62
My doubts are whether any of this findings cofirms that this chip is of
PG1.1 silicon? If yes why the chip is not supporting RTDX? Please explain
it...
Thanks in adance...
Shyju ----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Elder" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: [c6x] RTDX problem >
> Also, FYI a call to CSL function CHIP_getRevId() will do the trick.
> The hardware way (below) is much simpler !
>
> - Andrew E. > At 10:22 AM 6/6/2003 +0200, Jean-Michel MERCIER wrote:
>
> >2 ways to identifiy silicon revision
> >
> >- The software way :
> > * If you are using CCS 2.1x, then it is a 1.0x silicon revision
> > * If you are using CCS 2.2x, you have a different driver
> > for v1.0x and v1.1. So as said by Par, depending on which
> > driver works for you, you will now the revision
> >
> >- The hardware way : it is simply written on
> > the DSP
> > The 1st line of the DSP should be something like TMS320C6415GLZ
> > The 2nd line should be D103 - <numbers>
> > This is a 1.03 silicon
> > v1.1 silicon have <letter>11 marking at the start of the 2nd line
> >
> >
> > Jean-Michel MERCIER
> >
> >--
> >dsp & imaging - www.ateme.com
> >ATEME - 26 Burospace - 91573 BIEVRES
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : Par Ligander [mailto:]
> >> Envoy: vendredi 6 juin 2003 08:31
> >> : Shyju
> >> Cc : ;
> >> Objet : Re: [c6x] RTDX problem
> >>
> >>
> >> Shyju wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thanks for the fast response from P Ligander & Jeff Brower
> >> >I have tried RTDX in 6416 TEB from TI and also the board we
> >> designed using
> >> >C6416( Part no TMS32C6416DGLZ6E3).How do I know the core is
> >> PG1.1 silicon ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> http://focus.ti.com/lit/er/sprz011j/sprz011j.pdf
> >> Section 1.2 Revision Identifiaction
> >>
> >> Also, in CCS setup you should be using
> >> "C64xx Rev 1.1 XDS5x0......."
> >>
> >> /Regards, P Ligander
> >>
> >> >Pls clarify. The C6x series is more exiting with it's uncaomparable
> >> >features. But As a biginner I do have some difficulties in getting
alonmg
> >> >with C6416. Can any one send me any tutorial/Workshop material/
> >> or any good
> >> >pdfs on these. Now I am exploring the examples of the CCS studio.
> >> > Thanks once again. Ur suggestions are very important to me...
> >> >
> >> >Shyju P.V
> >> >ERDCI
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "P Ligander" <>
> >> >To: "Shyju" <>
> >> >Cc: <>
> >> >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:37 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: [c6x] RTDX problem
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>Are you using PG1.1 silicon ? It is requiered for RTDX...
> >> >>
> >> >>/Regards, P Ligander
> >> >>
> >> >>Shyju wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Hello friends ,
> >> >>> I am new to C6x as well as to this group. I am working on c6416
and
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >c6201 of TI with CCS 2.2.I had few prblem and I have described
> >> it here. Hope
> >> >any one will answer my questions. A hi to all the group members....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>> I have tried our programs in TMS3206416 TEB with code composer
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >version 2.2. I have downloaded the drivers of XDS510PP for CCS 2.2
from
> >> >Spectrum Digital's website. We tried the programs in the
> >> tutorial section of
> >> >CCS. Even if they are working fine we can not see the EXE graph , STS
> >> >details and LOG in real time. For seeing all those things either
> >> we have to
> >> >put a break point on the loop of execution or else we have to perform
the
> >> >step through. Although in the Volume 4 example we can not create
> >> a Channel
> >> >for real time data transfer with target. We have tried this in TI TEB
and
> >> >our board which uses the TMS3206416 DSP (Part no
> >> TMS32C6416DGLZ6E3). However
> >> >these programs are working in the 6201 TEB and we are getting
> >> EXE graph and
> >> >other things while the target is running.. We think the problem
> >> is with the
> >> >6416 chip. If we put break point in our program it spoils the
> >> very purpose
> >> >of RTDX. Since our design is based on C6416 it is a serious
> >> problem as far
> >> >as we are concerned.Pls!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>> give us a clear answer to this .
> >> >>>
> >> >>>The programs we tried are...
> >> >>>Volume 1, 2,3,4 of the tutorial folder of CCS.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Doubts are..
> >> >>>1. In order to get the data from C6416 is it mandatory to pass it
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >through the break point.(Remember break point halts the target
> >> for the data
> >> >transfer to the host and refreshing all the windows related to CCS)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>2. If RTDX is possible with C6416 can anyone gimme a simple code
which
> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >demonstrate the same.( Both host side and target side)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>Best Regards,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"You are not beaten until you admit it." -- George S. Patton,
> >> >>>Jr.
> >> >> > _____________________________________
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Reply by Jeff Brower June 6, 20032003-06-06
Henrry-

> Yeah, I aggree with you that XDS560 will also be
> faster as the TI claim for this product. I have seen
> XDS demo movie for the XDS560, this demo movie is
> demonstrating the XDS560 with DSK6711 and Daughter
> Card to capture image from WebCam and send to the Tv.
> In that demo, the picture that display in the tv was
> playing smoothly. But the movie doesnt explain how the
> image capture from web cam and display in tv.

If RTDX is being used in the demo to transfer data to the host for display on TV
card
or similar, then my guess is MPEG-4 CIF encode running on C6711. Or if both
WebCam
and TV are both connected to video daughtercard, then RTDX probably was not
playing a
role in real-time data transfer. Do you know what was the resolution of the TV
picture in the demo? That would tell you a lot. Maybe a TI person will step in
and
set us straight here :-)

> In my application is quite similiar which will
> capture image from CMOS Sensor for playing video.
> So I just want to make sure if i using code composer
> v.2.1(code composer that distributed together with
> DSK6711) and XDS560 could play the image data for real
> time .. So I could make sure that the data that coming
> to my board from CMOS sensor is correct.

Again to repeat my previous question, what bitrate? Also, what resolution?
What
fps?

Jeff Brower
system engineer
Signalogic