Reply by Kenneth Ciszewski February 17, 20042004-02-17
I had a further thought about VoIP in general, and was wondering if there was any comment on the following:
 
VoIP, as I understand it, runs in some form of Ethrnet style packet structure  at its most basic level.
 
Assuming these packets are not encoded or encrypted, wouldn't it be extremely easy for some one to "wire tap" the users on a VoIP based system, whether voice telephone or data? Assuming it's possible to read the packet headers, decoding the payload and figuring out who it belongs to should be easy.
 
I know there are some actual telephone systems that are VoIP.  I wonder if they deal with this issue.

MW Ron <m...@metrowerks.com> wrote:
dsp_devil wrote:

> I just bought a Motorola 56858 EVM and along with it came the
> Codewarrior software. I'm trying to implement a VoIP system. However,
> i have not had any prior experience with either the hardware or
> software. Can anyone give some advice as to a good place to start on
> such a project. Are there any open source websites that would be
> helpful for my purposes.

To learn how to use CodeWarrior,  I'd suggest you do a quick run through of
the the DSP course on CodeWarrior  <http://www.codewarrioru.com>  It is self
paced so you can do it all at once now.  While it isn't going to show you
exactly what you want it will help you see how CodeWarrior works and all of
that.

Ron    Programming Motorola's DSP
       
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their capabilities make them the core part of the embedded computer systems
found in everyday devices such as consumer electronics. Along the way,
you'll learn to program Motorola's DSP56824, DSP56803 and DSP56805
processors. You'll use Metrowerks' CodeWarrior development tools to write
DSP programs in C. A built-in simulator program lets you write and debug DSP
programs on your desktop PC without special hardware. When you've completed
this course, you'll appreciate the skilled programming behind the smooth
operation of that cellular phone or digital camera.

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Reply by Kenneth Ciszewski January 20, 20042004-01-20
Several years ago, I worked with software engineers who did "voice over Ethernet and long haul networks", which is essentially voice over IP.  Some suggestions based on that experience:
 
(1) use a mu-law or a-law encoding to get 16 bit audio down to 8-bit audio to conserve bandwidth and packet size This method is also robust in dealing with lost packets. If your use CVSD or other low-bit rate encoding schemes for voice, you incur additional delays, require additional processing power, and have problems with lost packets causing the decoder to lose synchronization and reproduction accuracy, as well as having nasty clicks and squawks in the received audio strearm.
 
(2) you will need a network interface--Ethernet is a good choice. 
 
(3) Use of UDP as network protocol is effective.
 
(4) There are numerous articles in Circuit Cellar Ink magazine about connecting Ethernet interfaces to microcontrollers--check issues in the last couple of years to give you a guide as to how to attach  an Ethenet IC to a DSP IC.
 
(5) You will need to buffer the audio on both the transmitting and receiving ends.
 
(6) You may wish to put about a 500 millisecond delay (or perhaps a lesser delay of say,100 milliseconds) to allow time to build up the transmit buffer and give the receiver buffer time to receive possibly delayed packets to ensure a continuous voice stream.
 
(7) an 8 KHz sample rate is usually adequate for voice--this is telephone toll quality for speech, and supports a 3.3 KHz audio bandwidth.  Wider bandwidths are achieveable with faster sample rates, of course.
 
(8) a header or sub-header giving connectivity information may be helpful.
 
 


MW Ron <m...@metrowerks.com> wrote:
dsp_devil wrote:

> I just bought a Motorola 56858 EVM and along with it came the
> Codewarrior software. I'm trying to implement a VoIP system. However,
> i have not had any prior experience with either the hardware or
> software. Can anyone give some advice as to a good place to start on
> such a project. Are there any open source websites that would be
> helpful for my purposes.

To learn how to use CodeWarrior,  I'd suggest you do a quick run through of
the the DSP course on CodeWarrior  <http://www.codewarrioru.com>  It is self
paced so you can do it all at once now.  While it isn't going to show you
exactly what you want it will help you see how CodeWarrior works and all of
that.

Ron    Programming Motorola's DSP
       
Course Description

This course will provide you with the basic concepts of programming embedded
systems. You will learn what digital signal processors (DSPs) are, and how
their capabilities make them the core part of the embedded computer systems
found in everyday devices such as consumer electronics. Along the way,
you'll learn to program Motorola's DSP56824, DSP56803 and DSP56805
processors. You'll use Metrowerks' CodeWarrior development tools to write
DSP programs in C. A built-in simulator program lets you write and debug DSP
programs on your desktop PC without special hardware. When you've completed
this course, you'll appreciate the skilled programming behind the smooth
operation of that cellular phone or digital camera.

--
     Check out the codewarrior.* usenet newsgroups
      for assistance with your programming questions.

Ron Liechty - M...@metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com



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Reply by MW Ron January 19, 20042004-01-19
dsp_devil wrote:

> I just bought a Motorola 56858 EVM and along with it came the
> Codewarrior software. I'm trying to implement a VoIP system. However,
> i have not had any prior experience with either the hardware or
> software. Can anyone give some advice as to a good place to start on
> such a project. Are there any open source websites that would be
> helpful for my purposes.

To learn how to use CodeWarrior, I'd suggest you do a quick run through of
the the DSP course on CodeWarrior <http://www.codewarrioru.com> It is self
paced so you can do it all at once now. While it isn't going to show you
exactly what you want it will help you see how CodeWarrior works and all of
that.

Ron Programming Motorola's DSP

Course Description

This course will provide you with the basic concepts of programming embedded
systems. You will learn what digital signal processors (DSPs) are, and how
their capabilities make them the core part of the embedded computer systems
found in everyday devices such as consumer electronics. Along the way,
you'll learn to program Motorola's DSP56824, DSP56803 and DSP56805
processors. You'll use Metrowerks' CodeWarrior development tools to write
DSP programs in C. A built-in simulator program lets you write and debug DSP
programs on your desktop PC without special hardware. When you've completed
this course, you'll appreciate the skilled programming behind the smooth
operation of that cellular phone or digital camera.

--
Check out the codewarrior.* usenet newsgroups
for assistance with your programming questions.

Ron Liechty - - http://www.metrowerks.com



Reply by dsp_devil January 18, 20042004-01-18
I just bought a Motorola 56858 EVM and along with it came the
Codewarrior software. I'm trying to implement a VoIP system. However,
i have not had any prior experience with either the hardware or
software. Can anyone give some advice as to a good place to start on
such a project. Are there any open source websites that would be
helpful for my purposes.