On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:52:00 AM UTC-5, gyans...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > I take a broader view of newsgroups, especially given that they are pretty much dead these days. Why shouldn't a group like this be a place where people who are interested in DSP discuss DSP and also discuss other things on their mind?
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> > As far as others leaving or staying because of off topic content....Nobody has control over that in an un-moderated group. For those that cannot handle an off topic opinion from a regular poster on this group, then the appropriate thing for them to do is to leave. So all is well.
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> Within reason. Do you want to see 100s of Join Islam postings for instance or are you saved by the Lord?
If you had reason (as you were appealing to above) you would realize that this discussion is about people who are regular posters to this group. Your point is absurd because
1. Everyone knows that the posts coming from the sources you are referring to will never be affected by protests from members of this group.
2. It seems to make a tie that Randy's off topic post is the equivalent to the spam posts
2a. (If Randy's post is the equivalent, then why not go have a personal "you are driving away traffic" discussion directed at the person who posts the stuff you are discussing above?)
3. Who gets to determine what is reasonable? The beauty of an un-moderated group is that each reader gets to apply their own filter as to what is reasonable. If you want "reasonable" go find a moderated group.
Reply by ●February 23, 20142014-02-23
On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:29:28 AM UTC+13, sally...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 21, 2014 1:09:27 PM UTC-5, Eric Jacobsen wrote:
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> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:54:44 -0500, Randy Yates
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> I take a broader view of newsgroups, especially given that they are pretty much dead these days. Why shouldn't a group like this be a place where people who are interested in DSP discuss DSP and also discuss other things on their mind?
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Within reason. Do you want to see 100s of Join Islam postings for instance or are you saved by the Lord?
Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
On Friday, February 21, 2014 1:09:27 PM UTC-5, Eric Jacobsen wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:54:44 -0500, Randy Yates
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> >>> gyansorova@gmail.com writes:
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> pollution levels are kept low. This applies to the usual things like
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> people posting for no purpose other than calling other posters
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> derogatory names, etc. "Feel free to not read it," applies to all of
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> those. "Feel free to not look at it," applies to trash left in a
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> park, too, but it's still detracting from the experience for others,
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> Eric Jacobsen
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> Anchor Hill Communications
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> http://www.anchorhill.com
I take a broader view of newsgroups, especially given that they are pretty much dead these days. Why shouldn't a group like this be a place where people who are interested in DSP discuss DSP and also discuss other things on their mind?
As far as others leaving or staying because of off topic content....Nobody has control over that in an un-moderated group. For those that cannot handle an off topic opinion from a regular poster on this group, then the appropriate thing for them to do is to leave. So all is well.
Reply by Tom Gardner●February 21, 20142014-02-21
On 21/02/14 18:09, Eric Jacobsen wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:54:44 -0500, Randy Yates
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>> Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
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>>> On 21/02/14 10:15, Randy Yates wrote:
>>>> gyansorova@gmail.com writes:
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>>>>> On Friday, February 21, 2014 2:43:49 AM UTC+13, Randy Yates wrote:
>>>>>> Have you heard? This sounds to me like the most vicious attack against
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> You might consider that a newsgroup dedicated to a particular topic
> will be the most useful to its users, and have the highest SNR, if the
> pollution levels are kept low. This applies to the usual things like
> people posting for no purpose other than calling other posters
> derogatory names, etc. "Feel free to not read it," applies to all of
> those. "Feel free to not look at it," applies to trash left in a
> park, too, but it's still detracting from the experience for others,
> and doesn't speak well for the one who left it.
Not a bada analogy, and low SNR has killed more groups
than I can think of. /Currently/ this group has a
reasonable SNR; I hope nobody unwittingly changes that.
Reply by Eric Jacobsen●February 21, 20142014-02-21
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 13:17:36 -0500, Randy Yates
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>eric.jacobsen@ieee.org (Eric Jacobsen) writes:
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>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:54:44 -0500, Randy Yates
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>>>Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
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>>>> On 21/02/14 10:15, Randy Yates wrote:
>>>>> gyansorova@gmail.com writes:
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>>>>>> On Friday, February 21, 2014 2:43:49 AM UTC+13, Randy Yates wrote:
>>>>>>> Have you heard? This sounds to me like the most vicious attack against
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>> You might consider that a newsgroup dedicated to a particular topic
>> will be the most useful to its users, and have the highest SNR, if the
>> pollution levels are kept low. This applies to the usual things like
>> people posting for no purpose other than calling other posters
>> derogatory names, etc. "Feel free to not read it," applies to all of
>> those. "Feel free to not look at it," applies to trash left in a
>> park, too, but it's still detracting from the experience for others,
>> and doesn't speak well for the one who left it.
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>Ahh, liberals unite!
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>Randy Yates
>Digital Signal Labs
>http://www.digitalsignallabs.com
Sorry if that went over your head, then.
Eric Jacobsen
Anchor Hill Communications
http://www.anchorhill.com
Reply by Randy Yates●February 21, 20142014-02-21
eric.jacobsen@ieee.org (Eric Jacobsen) writes:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:54:44 -0500, Randy Yates
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>>Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
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>>> On 21/02/14 10:15, Randy Yates wrote:
>>>> gyansorova@gmail.com writes:
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>>>>> On Friday, February 21, 2014 2:43:49 AM UTC+13, Randy Yates wrote:
>>>>>> Have you heard? This sounds to me like the most vicious attack against
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> You might consider that a newsgroup dedicated to a particular topic
> will be the most useful to its users, and have the highest SNR, if the
> pollution levels are kept low. This applies to the usual things like
> people posting for no purpose other than calling other posters
> derogatory names, etc. "Feel free to not read it," applies to all of
> those. "Feel free to not look at it," applies to trash left in a
> park, too, but it's still detracting from the experience for others,
> and doesn't speak well for the one who left it.
Reply by Eric Jacobsen●February 21, 20142014-02-21
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:54:44 -0500, Randy Yates
<yates@digitalsignallabs.com> wrote:
>Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
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>> On 21/02/14 10:15, Randy Yates wrote:
>>> gyansorova@gmail.com writes:
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>>>> On Friday, February 21, 2014 2:43:49 AM UTC+13, Randy Yates wrote:
>>>>> Have you heard? This sounds to me like the most vicious attack against
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>Feel free to not read it.
You might consider that a newsgroup dedicated to a particular topic
will be the most useful to its users, and have the highest SNR, if the
pollution levels are kept low. This applies to the usual things like
people posting for no purpose other than calling other posters
derogatory names, etc. "Feel free to not read it," applies to all of
those. "Feel free to not look at it," applies to trash left in a
park, too, but it's still detracting from the experience for others,
and doesn't speak well for the one who left it.
Eric Jacobsen
Anchor Hill Communications
http://www.anchorhill.com
Reply by Randy Yates●February 21, 20142014-02-21
Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
> On 21/02/14 10:15, Randy Yates wrote:
>> gyansorova@gmail.com writes:
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>>> On Friday, February 21, 2014 2:43:49 AM UTC+13, Randy Yates wrote:
>>>> Have you heard? This sounds to me like the most vicious attack against
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>>>> Randy Yates
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> Boring. Very very boring.
On Friday, February 21, 2014 11:15:26 PM UTC+13, Randy Yates wrote:
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I would say of international interest. Local politics is kinda boring for the rest of us. For the rest of us the only time we see americans is when they bomb other countries or in the movies.
Reply by Tom Gardner●February 21, 20142014-02-21
On 21/02/14 10:15, Randy Yates wrote:
> gyansorova@gmail.com writes:
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>> On Friday, February 21, 2014 2:43:49 AM UTC+13, Randy Yates wrote:
>>> Have you heard? This sounds to me like the most vicious attack against
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>>> Digital Signal Labs
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