Jerry Avins wrote:

> Nah. He's young. He still has time to learn.

    Good judgment comes from experience;
    experience comes from bad judgment.
         -- Mark Twain

 From the .signature of someone whose posts I like
to read in a different newsgroup.  Maybe it applies.

-- glen

Randy Yates wrote:

  ...

 > You're an idiot.

Nah. He's young. He still has time to learn.

Jerry
-- 
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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FC wrote:
> Rick,
> If you had such sympathy for me then why did you have to spit in my
> face when I asked for help in this message board. I've heard of your
> book and I've also heard that its a great book. I am sorry for calling
> you whatever I called you, but it was just a natural reaction to you
> and your friend's sarcasm and ganging up on me. I recognize that you
> are a guru at your stuff but there was no excuse for you to behave like
> and a** either. I will learn all about DSP with or without your help.
> You can choose to not help someone, but its not your choice to put
> someone down when they are asking for help. I still stand by my
> position no matter what any of you or your buddies say. Just a friendly
> advice for you; in the future, just ignore someone's request rather
> than giving them a lecture or calling them a liar. It just saves
> everyone a lot of grief, ok?
> 
> Farhat

I assume you were addressing Rick, but your reply is to me. You might be
well off to go to http://users.erols.com/jyavins/ and click on "How to
ask technical questions in comp.dsp". It will explain how to coax the
people around here to help even if it is homework. Another thing to
consider: getting huffy when someone asks for your bona fides is a poor
way to get a job or anything else.

Jerry
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Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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"FC" <farhatch@yahoo.com> writes:

> Rick,
>
> Why don't you just say that you don't know how to solve this problem,
> instead of trying to be a private detective? Maybe you are the stud on
> this group and now feel ashamed that you can't figure out this problem.
> There is no point in continuing this discussion as I received the
> answers from my professor now. If I were you I would be very careful in
> how I deal with people; the industry is pretty small and who knows you
> may have to work for me someday. Understood, stud muffin?
>
> Farhat

You're an idiot. 
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Rick,
If you had such sympathy for me then why did you have to spit in my
face when I asked for help in this message board. I've heard of your
book and I've also heard that its a great book. I am sorry for calling
you whatever I called you, but it was just a natural reaction to you
and your friend's sarcasm and ganging up on me. I recognize that you
are a guru at your stuff but there was no excuse for you to behave like
and a** either. I will learn all about DSP with or without your help.
You can choose to not help someone, but its not your choice to put
someone down when they are asking for help. I still stand by my
position no matter what any of you or your buddies say. Just a friendly
advice for you; in the future, just ignore someone's request rather
than giving them a lecture or calling them a liar. It just saves
everyone a lot of grief, ok?

Farhat

"FC" <farhatch@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1103583199.531906.95710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Rick,
> [...] If I were you I would be very careful in
> how I deal with people; the industry is pretty small and who knows you
> may have to work for me someday. Understood, stud muffin?

That's too funny.  And after Jerry's post, you'll be saying "Well, if I'd 
known that, then I wouldn't have been such an a**!".

Maybe you're thinking you should do more research next time, to ensure that 
such condescension is appropriate to the circumstances of the conversation.

Eventually, I'm sure you would figure out the real lesson on your own, but 
let me save you a few years.  This is it:  It's never appropriate.  Just 
don't be an a**.

--
Matt

FC wrote:

> Rick,
> 
> Why don't you just say that you don't know how to solve this problem,
> instead of trying to be a private detective? Maybe you are the stud on
> this group and now feel ashamed that you can't figure out this problem.
> There is no point in continuing this discussion as I received the
> answers from my professor now. If I were you I would be very careful in
> how I deal with people; the industry is pretty small and who knows you
> may have to work for me someday. Understood, stud muffin?
> 
> Farhat

I actually have a bit of sympathy for the way you feel, but you couldn't
be further from the mark. You will find all the information you need in
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0201634678/104-1411742-8728737?v=glance
by you-know-who.

Jerry
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Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Rick,

Why don't you just say that you don't know how to solve this problem,
instead of trying to be a private detective? Maybe you are the stud on
this group and now feel ashamed that you can't figure out this problem.
There is no point in continuing this discussion as I received the
answers from my professor now. If I were you I would be very careful in
how I deal with people; the industry is pretty small and who knows you
may have to work for me someday. Understood, stud muffin?

Farhat

On 19 Dec 2004 12:55:13 -0800, "FC" <farhatch@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Yes these are h/w questions. Unfortunately, I signed up for this class
>which was only one week long. I have no prior experience with DSP. The
>other class that leads up to this course was cancelled by the school
>and didn't bother to tell me that it would be very difficult to
>understand the concepts if I didnt take the first course. To be honest
>I had already given up and sent the professor an email that I will not
>continue with it anymore; I was just curious if someone could answer it
>since I spent the whole damn weekend trying to figure it out. I have
>spent over $300 dollars in books over the last week but I think one
>week for a 3 semester credit course is just not enough to catch up to
>all the theory.
>
>Anyway, I appreciate you guys taking time to answer, even though it
>wasn't the answer to what I asked.
>
>Cheers
>Farhat
>

Hello Farhat,

   your sad story is hard to believe.
Actually, it's not believable (at least to me).

It hard to understand why you want the answers 
to your questions if you dropped out of 
the class.

You can convince us that your story is true if
you give us the name of your school and 
the Course Number of your DSP class, and your 
professor's name.

[-Rick-]

FC wrote:
> Yes these are h/w questions. [SNIP ;]

Don't give up yet ;)

I have observed that this group is not adverse to to assisting with
*HOMEWORK* as long as it is INITIALLY identified as such ;!

To obtain a "positive" response, demonstrate that you have tried to 
solve the problem on your own effort.