Reply by William Meyer May 3, 20052005-05-03
oN 04/27/05, Spehro Pefhany said:

> Sure, it happens, but it's pretty rare, IMHO, for people to acquire > deep theoretical knowledge that way. Perhaps Andor's point is that the > two are virtually orthogonal requirements.
Actually, in the video business, it is more common than not, as it was essential for many years, simply because there were no competent engineering programs with a video orientation. There are still very few. -- Bill Posted with XanaNews Version 1.17.4.1
Reply by Richard Owlett April 28, 20052005-04-28
Rune Allnor wrote:
> Stan Pawlukiewicz wrote: > > >>I was lucky when I workd for the Navy. I was working for an ONR > > sponsor > >>on a program that required a bit of theoretical knowledge and at the >>same time going to grad school part time. The work and school >>dovetailed very nicely. The theory was for lack of a better term, >>practical. > > > That's a very efficient way of learning, isn't it? I did basically > the same thing. Worked for an oil company, trying to solve a very > practical problem by means of theoretically heavy DSP. > > On the plus side, one learns a lot very fast. On the down side, > few other people appear to have similar experiences. So it's > a problem capitalizing on this kind of experience in the long term. > The theoretical people see one's practical experience. The > practitioners see the theoretical side. And the laymen see a > voodoo whitch doctor. > > Oh well. > > Rune >
You never know what portion of your resume will get you an interview. An agency sent my resume out "shotgun style". The CEO of a small company saw it and *to quote him* just had to meet someone who could demonstrably claim such a strange academic and work history. He didn't think I would accept the job. But he did want to meet me. Looking back, perhaps I should have taken the job, not because it was so great ( it wasn't ), but to work for someone with that attitude.
Reply by Rune Allnor April 28, 20052005-04-28
Stan Pawlukiewicz wrote:

> I was lucky when I workd for the Navy. I was working for an ONR
sponsor
> on a program that required a bit of theoretical knowledge and at the > same time going to grad school part time. The work and school > dovetailed very nicely. The theory was for lack of a better term, > practical.
That's a very efficient way of learning, isn't it? I did basically the same thing. Worked for an oil company, trying to solve a very practical problem by means of theoretically heavy DSP. On the plus side, one learns a lot very fast. On the down side, few other people appear to have similar experiences. So it's a problem capitalizing on this kind of experience in the long term. The theoretical people see one's practical experience. The practitioners see the theoretical side. And the laymen see a voodoo whitch doctor. Oh well. Rune
Reply by Jerry Avins April 27, 20052005-04-27
Spehro Pefhany wrote:


> Sure, it happens, but it's pretty rare, IMHO, for people to acquire > deep theoretical knowledge that way. Perhaps Andor's point is that the > two are virtually orthogonal requirements.
I got my B.E.E. when the director of the lab I worked in said, "You're doing an engineer's work, you ought to get paid like on. Go get a degree." Two years later, one of the job offers I got was less than what I had been making when he pushed me out, but the one I took ended me up as an MTS at RCA Labs. I never got another degree, but I had a couple of Ph.D.s who worked as my assistant at one time or another. The part I'm proud of is two of my technicians becoming full-fledged MTSs. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by Stan Pawlukiewicz April 27, 20052005-04-27
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:30:04 -0500, the renowned Larry G > <no.one@nowhere.com> wrote: > > >>On 27 Apr 2005 04:53:00 -0700, Andor <an2or@mailcircuit.com> wrote: >> >> >>>" >>>Education: Undergraduate Degree required, Graduate degree preferred, or >>> >>>equivalent years of industry experience considered. >>>" >>> >>>That's interesting: how many years of industry experience make up a >>>undergraduate or graduate degree? >>> >>>Regards, >>>Andor >> >> >>Believe it or not, some people acquire knowledge by reading, working >>with the technology, and solving real-world problems. Sort of like >>they do in school, only with a more practical focus. Reality TV for >>education, only better. >> >>Cheers, >>Larry G. > > > Sure, it happens, but it's pretty rare, IMHO, for people to acquire > deep theoretical knowledge that way. Perhaps Andor's point is that the > two are virtually orthogonal requirements. > > > Best regards, > Spehro Pefhany
I was lucky when I workd for the Navy. I was working for an ONR sponsor on a program that required a bit of theoretical knowledge and at the same time going to grad school part time. The work and school dovetailed very nicely. The theory was for lack of a better term, practical.
Reply by Fred Marshall April 27, 20052005-04-27
"Andor" <an2or@mailcircuit.com> wrote in message 
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> " > Education: Undergraduate Degree required, Graduate degree preferred, or > > equivalent years of industry experience considered. > " > > That's interesting: how many years of industry experience make up a > undergraduate or graduate degree? >
It depends on if one has 10 years of real experience or only 1 year of experience 10 times. Delete the "years of" and it makes more sense. Then, an interviewer might ask how did you get that equivalent experience? And, secondarily, how many years did it take *you* to get that "equivalence". Fred
Reply by tim (moved to sweden) April 27, 20052005-04-27
"Andor" <an2or@mailcircuit.com> wrote in message 
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> " > Education: Undergraduate Degree required, Graduate degree preferred, or > > equivalent years of industry experience considered. > " > > That's interesting: how many years of industry experience make up a > undergraduate or graduate degree?
the US government seem to think it is 10 years. tim
Reply by Spehro Pefhany April 27, 20052005-04-27
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:30:04 -0500, the renowned Larry G
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On 27 Apr 2005 04:53:00 -0700, Andor <an2or@mailcircuit.com> wrote: > >> " >> Education: Undergraduate Degree required, Graduate degree preferred, or >> >> equivalent years of industry experience considered. >> " >> >> That's interesting: how many years of industry experience make up a >> undergraduate or graduate degree? >> >> Regards, >> Andor > > >Believe it or not, some people acquire knowledge by reading, working >with the technology, and solving real-world problems. Sort of like >they do in school, only with a more practical focus. Reality TV for >education, only better. > >Cheers, >Larry G.
Sure, it happens, but it's pretty rare, IMHO, for people to acquire deep theoretical knowledge that way. Perhaps Andor's point is that the two are virtually orthogonal requirements. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Reply by Larry G April 27, 20052005-04-27
On 27 Apr 2005 04:53:00 -0700, Andor <an2or@mailcircuit.com> wrote:

> " > Education: Undergraduate Degree required, Graduate degree preferred, or > > equivalent years of industry experience considered. > " > > That's interesting: how many years of industry experience make up a > undergraduate or graduate degree? > > Regards, > Andor
Believe it or not, some people acquire knowledge by reading, working with the technology, and solving real-world problems. Sort of like they do in school, only with a more practical focus. Reality TV for education, only better. Cheers, Larry G.
Reply by Andor April 27, 20052005-04-27
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Education: Undergraduate Degree required, Graduate degree preferred, or

equivalent years of industry experience considered.
"

That's interesting: how many years of industry experience make up a
undergraduate or graduate degree?

Regards,
Andor