Reply by porterboy August 18, 20042004-08-18
> Y(e^jw) = 0.5 [X(e^jw/2) + X(e^j(pi+w/2))]. (A) > I have a problem with your equation (A) above. I can't see straight away > why you get two terms there.
Have a look at Gilbert and Strang "wavelets and filterbanks" bottom of page 91 or Vaidyanathan "multirate systems and filterbanks" top of page 105. The second term is aliasing because it is a discrete-time system.
> If > > x(t) <-> X(w) > > is a Fourier transform pair, then > > x(at) <-> 1/|a|*X(w/a).
Again, this is continuous time, so there is no spectral wrap-around at half the sampling frequency as occurs in discrete time.
Reply by August 18, 20042004-08-18
porterboy76@yahoo.com (porterboy) writes:

> Eeeep!
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Reply by porterboy August 18, 20042004-08-18
Eeeep!
Sorry about the multiple post there... the computer froze...
Reply by Rune Allnor August 18, 20042004-08-18
porterboy76@yahoo.com (porterboy) wrote in message news:<c4b57fd0.0408170905.30c13258@posting.google.com>...
> Given a stationary discrete-time stochastic process x(n) with > discrete-time Fourier transform X(e^jw) and spectrum Sx(w). If x(n) is > downsampled by two to give y(n) it is well known that > > Y(e^jw) = 0.5 [X(e^jw/2) + X(e^j(pi+w/2))]. (A) > > My question is, what is the resulting spectrum, not just the Fourier > Transform.
Eh... The "Fourier transform" is linked to the "spectrum" in the same way that the "addition" is linked to the "sum". So seeing how the FT reacts to time scaling explains what happens to the spectrum.
> I know that Sx(w) = E[X(e^jw)X*(e^jw)] and Sy(w) = > E[Y(e^jw)Y*(e^jw)]. From (A), this gives > > Sy(w) = 0.25[ Sx(w/2) + Sx(pi+w/2) > + E[X(e^jw)X*(e^j(pi+w/2)) > + E[X*(e^jw)X(e^j(pi+w/2))] ] > > I understand the first two terms which are the original spectrum in > the first half band and the aliasing from the second half band. Do the > second two terms disappear or are they also contributing to aliasing?
I have a problem with your equation (A) above. I can't see straight away why you get two terms there. I'd expect the "usual" scaling property to hold: If x(t) <-> X(w) is a Fourier transform pair, then x(at) <-> 1/|a|*X(w/a). Rune
Reply by porterboy August 17, 20042004-08-17
Given a stationary discrete-time stochastic process x(n) with
discrete-time Fourier transform X(e^jw) and spectrum Sx(w). If x(n) is
downsampled by two to give y(n) it is well known that

Y(e^jw) = 0.5 [X(e^jw/2) + X(e^j(pi+w/2))].  (A)

My question is, what is the resulting spectrum, not just the Fourier
Transform. I know that Sx(w) = E[X(e^jw)X*(e^jw)] and Sy(w) =
E[Y(e^jw)Y*(e^jw)]. From (A), this gives

Sy(w) = 0.25[  Sx(w/2) + Sx(pi+w/2) 
             + E[X(e^jw)X*(e^j(pi+w/2))
             + E[X*(e^jw)X(e^j(pi+w/2))] ]

I understand the first two terms which are the original spectrum in
the first half band and the aliasing from the second half band. Do the
second two terms disappear or are they also contributing to aliasing?