Reply by glen herrmannsfeldt August 2, 20052005-08-02
Clay S. Turner wrote:

> "glen herrmannsfeldt" wrote
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>>Did you know that L'Hopital didn't invent the rule, but took >>credit for someone else's rule? I don't remember anymore who, but >>it is in the book "Zero: the biography of a dangerous idea."
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> So I wonder how L'Hospital's name came to be placed on the "rule"?
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/scihist.htm is the first I find from Google. It seems that it was given to him by Bernouli. L'Hospital paid him as a tutor, and the rights to what he learned. There are some good Bernouli stories in "Five Equations that changed the world." -- glen
Reply by Clay S. Turner July 27, 20052005-07-27
"glen herrmannsfeldt" <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message 
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> Clay wrote: > > >> To understand how to handle the 0/0 thing, look up L'Hospital's rule.We >> don't mind helping with workwork as long as the student: > > Did you know that L'Hopital didn't invent the rule, but took > credit for someone else's rule? I don't remember anymore who, but > it is in the book "Zero: the biography of a dangerous idea." > > -- glen >
Interesting! I'll have to look in to it. I recall a discussion with a friend ( a gun historian) recently where he was telling me the history behind the Thompson machine gun. And of course General Thompson didn't invent it, but the inventors wanted to put Thompson's name on it and he finally reluctantly agreed, and that is the name we now know. One has to go to the actual patent to find the inventors. So I wonder how L'Hospital's name came to be placed on the "rule"? Clay
Reply by glen herrmannsfeldt July 27, 20052005-07-27
Clay wrote:


> To understand how to handle the 0/0 thing, look up L'Hospital's rule.We > don't mind helping with workwork as long as the student:
Did you know that L'Hopital didn't invent the rule, but took credit for someone else's rule? I don't remember anymore who, but it is in the book "Zero: the biography of a dangerous idea." -- glen
Reply by Clay July 26, 20052005-07-26
Hello,
To understand how to handle the 0/0 thing, look up L'Hospital's rule.We
don't mind helping with workwork as long as the student:

1) Informs us this is homework

2) Really tries to do the problem

Then we can give hints and pointers. Because the point in doing
homework is to force you to deal with real problems.

Clay

Reply by dbell July 26, 20052005-07-26
Keep in mind that you have sin(x/6)/x, not sin(x)/x

lim(x->0) of sin(x/6)/x is not 1.

Dirk

Reply by July 26, 20052005-07-26
thank you very much. :)

Reply by Jon Harris July 26, 20052005-07-26
sin(0)/0 is supposed to be 1.  If you use Matlab's Signal Processing Toolbox 
sinc function rather than explicitly using sin(x)/x, it will work properly.  See 
http://www-ccs.ucsd.edu/matlab/toolbox/signal/sinc.html or type help sinc.

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>I am doing homework on "design of linear phase FIR filters using > windows" > > The unit sample response of the FIR filter is > > h(n)=sin((pi./6).*(n-12))./(pi.*(n-12)); > > The filter has 25 taps. > > I need to plot |H(omega)| in MATLAB > where H is the Fourier Transform of h(n)=SUM(0->24)of > (h(n)*exp(-j*omega*n)) > > but I got stuck here since at n=12, the h(n) is 0/0 and MATLAB gives an > error: "Divide by zero". > > How to solve the problem out? > > thank you very much. > > Sincerely yours. >
Reply by July 25, 20052005-07-25
I am doing homework on "design of linear phase FIR filters using
windows"

The unit sample response of the FIR filter is

h(n)=sin((pi./6).*(n-12))./(pi.*(n-12));

The filter has 25 taps.

I need to plot |H(omega)| in MATLAB
where H is the Fourier Transform of h(n)=SUM(0->24)of
(h(n)*exp(-j*omega*n))

but I got stuck here since at n=12, the h(n) is 0/0 and MATLAB gives an
error: "Divide by zero".

How to solve the problem out?

thank you very much.

Sincerely yours.