Randy Yates wrote:
> Hi Davy,
>
> Contrary to several others' opinion, I prefer file I/O over
> probepoints.
>
> I found file I/O via the standard C libraries does work
> but not as expected on the C54x platform. The problem
> has to do with differences in, e.g., the minimum addressable
> unit on the C54x being a 16-bit quantity rather than the
> 8-bit char that is available almost everywhere else.
>
> I've written some "hook" routines that translate the C54 file
> I/O operations into the ones we've come to know and love.
> You're welcome to them - email me at yates@ieee.org.
> Put the string "TI File I/O" in the header so I don't trash
> your message as spam.
>
> --Randy

I have done exactly the same thing, Randy, and I prefer file I/O to
probe points. I use utility routines on the Matlab side and CCS side
that understand the TI formats. I have found it to be a reliable way to
get data onto and off of the DSP -- once you understand the formats and
limitations.

Probe points are nifty, but TI needs to simplify their configuration.
There are too many steps and menus. With file I/O, I can put a project
on the shelf for a year, come back to it, and I'm in business quickly.
With probe points I have to returh to the documentation, navigate the
bugs, deal with changes to the IDE, and worry about obsolescense.

One thing the file I/O method is not is fast. 

John

Hi Davy,

Contrary to several others' opinion, I prefer file I/O over
probepoints.

I found file I/O via the standard C libraries does work
but not as expected on the C54x platform. The problem
has to do with differences in, e.g., the minimum addressable
unit on the C54x being a 16-bit quantity rather than the
8-bit char that is available almost everywhere else.

I've written some "hook" routines that translate the C54 file
I/O operations into the ones we've come to know and love.
You're welcome to them - email me at yates@ieee.org.
Put the string "TI File I/O" in the header so I don't trash
your message as spam.

--Randy

Davy wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Thank you for your help!
> 
> I use the C55 platform. And shall I write the driver when I want to use
> " probe points"?
> 
> Best regards,
> Davy


No not at all.  The purpose of probe points is to let you inject or 
eject data under the debugger (or I suppose under the simulator as well) 
with a great deal of ease, ie., without having to write any drivers.

In a simulated application, or in an app under development where some 
system components (and their drivers) responsible for supplying data to 
the DSP or doing something with data generated by the DSP are not yet 
available, the DSP developer would be able to get work done by having a 
way to virtualize the data flow.  The probe points allow this.  But they 
are implemented by the debugger, not by lines of code which call some 
stdio library for instance.  They allow you to develop the data 
processing algorithms in the absence of the code that actually IOs the 
data.  Later of course you will have to implement the code that will 
interact with whatever hardware to IO the real data.

But the way to get started understanding all this is to invest the time 
working through all the tutorials, giving at least a brief read through 
the most relevant user guides and app notes, then starting to write some 
experiment apps.




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Davy wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> I use the C55 platform. And shall I write the driver when I want to use
> " probe points"?
>
> Best regards,
> Davy

There's no need to write code. Probe points are like breakpoints: When
you hit one, CCS will dump data from the DSP into a file or from a file
into the DSP's memory.

Cheers! --M

Hi Chris,

Thank you for your help!

I use the C55 platform. And shall I write the driver when I want to use
" probe points"?

Best regards,
Davy

Hi Bhooshan,

Thank you for your help ;-)
Ah, I notice the "probe-point", but is it easy to use like C libraries?
What document shall I read about it?

Any suggestions will be appreciated!
Best regards,
Davy

Davy wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I always work on VC and now I want to port my code to TI CSS.
> I read the CCS manual, and confused with file operation.
> 
> I want to read data from a virtual data source. And write to another
> virtual data file.
> Does TI CCS support standard C file operation like "fopen" and "fread"
> and "putchar"?
> 
> Any suggestions will be appreciated!
> Best regards,
> Davy


Which DSP platform?

For the one with which I am familiar, the C2000 platform, CCS has "probe 
points" and other goodies that allow you to input/output data from 
files.  This is in the development phase.  For real file IO in the real 
application, then of course some sort of hardware file storage mechanism 
and associated drivers would need to be in place.

Spend time working through all their tutorials.  Then you will have the 
overview of what features are available and how to use them.



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Davy--

>Does TI CCS support standard C file operation like "fopen" and "fread"
>and "putchar"?

Yes. But like any other semi-hosted embedded systems, it does it quite
poorly for any kind of streaming activity to be modeled in real-time. Also
since these libraries are ANSI C libraries not written with embedded
systems in mind, they tend to be inefficient and loose.

You might want to evaluate a feature called "probe-point" in CCS, which
can be used for file operations.

--Bhooshan

		
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Hi all,

I always work on VC and now I want to port my code to TI CSS.
I read the CCS manual, and confused with file operation.

I want to read data from a virtual data source. And write to another
virtual data file.
Does TI CCS support standard C file operation like "fopen" and "fread"
and "putchar"?

Any suggestions will be appreciated!
Best regards,
Davy