Oops! >And also these shifts in strategy and positioning is easily > explained even by TI employees Full of typos! Arggg... that must be the most incoherent reply ever! I meant *Not* easily explained *even* by TI employees! --Bhooshan > > Thanks Mike! > It makes more sense now that you have offered some very clear insights over > two different mails but the problem is that in the normal course of events i > wouldnt have posted this query and would have ended carrying some > micconception. And also these shifts in strategy and positioning is easily > explained even by TI employees! > > So thanks a lot! > > --Bhooshan > > Bhooshan - FYI, > > RE: EVMs > At least one person at TI has indicated that they want to ensure that > DSK-type platforms are "available for the masses" and that TI would only > pursue 'selected' vertical EVMs. Their intent is to leave space for their > third parties to deliver additional 'EVM-type' products [both vertical and > general purpose] to the market. > > RE: 6201/6701 EVMs > The first TI 6201 EVM that I used [the design hasn't changed] had a > 'pre-Code Composer' TI debugger and ran on Windows 95 [Win 98 was still 'on > the way']. I suspect that it has a few obsolete parts on it. > > mikedunn > > Bhooshan iyer <bhooshaniyer@h...> wrote: > Jeff- > > >DSK C6711 has higher performance in host transfer rates because: > > Isnt the traditional idea that a USB device communicates faster than a > paralell port? ( I may be wrong here because i have not idea about the USB > technology) > > Then how come the 6711 communicates faster with the host than the 6713? > > Mike- > Thanks for your comments but as you said the big business picture is still > vague. I made some further digging in the TI website and discovered some > more shocking details. Almost all the C6x EVM's are obsolete! including: > 670x EVM's and 620x EVM's and the sites dont give info on why they were > discontinued just that the alternate device to use is c6713. Thats it! > > Its a different issue that they still sell those same chips in volumes but > no more EVM platforms! > > As far as i can see there are only DSK's in the C6000 stable now! > > -C6711 > -C6712 > -C6713 > -C6416 > -DM Series > -and app dev kits > > Could it be because the DSK's were more than adequate for product > development than the heavily priced EVM's? > > ps: Still looking for the TI definition of the word "obsolete" > > --Bhooshan > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Mike Dunn > To: Jagadeesh Sankaran , Jeff Brower > > CC: Bhooshan Iyer , > Subject: Re: [c6x] Obsolete Tools: TEB, C6211 etc... > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:19:30 -0800 (PST) > > Bhooshan and others, > > A couple of clues are in the acronyms - but when you really look at the life > cycles of various products, it is still a bit confusing. > The following is my understanding [and opinion]... > > TEB - Test Evaluation Board. Normally for early adopters of a new device. > the 6416 TEB supported the initial C64x device that was available. examples > and peripherals may be limited for TEBs. These have a JTAG header and > require an emulator. > DSK - DSP Starter Kit. A turnkey package that is low cost, has an on board > emulator, has audio I/O, and example/tutorial programs. Intened for entry > level DSP development. > EVM - EValuation Module. A "professional grade" development platform, > requires an external emulator, may or may not have a 'vertical' focus. > > The 6416 TEB was replaced by the 6416 DSK. > I think that jeff's 6711/6713 DSK comments may be accurate. > > mikedunn > Jagadeesh Sankaran wrote: > Jeff Brower wrote: > > > > Bhooshan- > > > > > I am quite intrigued by the fact that, TMS320C6713 DSk, which is > acknoledged > > > to be a revision on C6711 co-exists with the latter whereas logically > on > > > would have thought C6711 was a good candidate for retirement? And TEB > (6416 > > > based test and evaluation board) was made obsolete inspite of it being > > > introduced only a couple of years back? What has replaced TEB? > > > > DSK C6711 has higher performance in host transfer rates because: > > > > -JTAG data does not go through USB-JTAG interface > > > > -has HPI port option > > > > With DSK C6713 board, the maximum host data rate is about 20 kbyte/sec, > which means > > it's not suitable for video daughtercard, streaming audio data to disk > file, etc. > > > > -Jeff > > > I do not know this for a fact, but Spectrum Digital has a C6413 {I > think} DSK. This > I think is the replacement for the TEB. > > Regds > JS > _____________________________________ > Note: If you do a simple "reply" with your email client, only the author of > this message will receive your answer. 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