Reply by sandiego February 13, 20062006-02-13
I am a beginner here , so take my analysis with a grain of salt. I
would think the highest complexity is associated with randomness since
essentially you cannot compress any of the information . This might
mean that if you take the inverse FFT of your spectrum, then the
autocorrelation of that would be sharply peaked around zero.

Best

Reply by Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use) February 12, 20062006-02-12
Looking at the page:

http://web.gfi.uib.no/~ngbnk/kurs/notes/node123.html

I find a set of formulae that make a measurement of coherence expressed
as a "coherence spectrum" analogous with a correlation coefficient. I'm
tempted to adopt the above measure until I get further through Bendat
et. al's books.

Cheers,

Ross-c

Reply by Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use) February 10, 20062006-02-10
I've obtained these books from the library, but haven't really looked
into them yet. The copy of "Measurement and Analysis of Random Data" I
have is from 1966. I'll see what happens when I can sit down and start
reading.

Cheers,

Ross-c

Reply by Rune Allnor February 10, 20062006-02-10
Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use) wrote:
> It will take me some time to get my mitts on this book. Would his older > books "Engineering applications of correlation and spectral analysis" > or "Measurement and analysis of random data" be relevant?
I have just had a look at the book "Engineering applications of correlation and spectral analysis". It seems to go deeper into the workings of coherence than "Random Data" does. It even mentions the tautology cxy(f) == 1 I have had problems with. I haven't had the time to look into the details, but it seems that the clue is what estimator one uses for the various spectra that go into the coherence estimator. Rune
Reply by Rune Allnor February 3, 20062006-02-03
Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use) wrote:
> It will take me some time to get my mitts on this book. Would his older > books "Engineering applications of correlation and spectral analysis"
Probably. I don't have my copy of this one easily available, but I remember noticing there was a lot of common material in this one and "Random Data". The difference would be that "Random Data" is heavier on the theory, while "Engineering applications..." is more hands-on.
> or "Measurement and analysis of random data" be relevant?
Maybe. I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the first couple of editions of "Random Data". Rune
Reply by Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use) February 3, 20062006-02-03
It will take me some time to get my mitts on this book. Would his older
books "Engineering applications of correlation and spectral analysis"
or "Measurement and analysis of random data" be relevant?

Cheers,

Ross-c

Reply by Rune Allnor February 3, 20062006-02-03
Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use) wrote:
> After reading these answers and thinking carefully, I've decided to > redesign my experiments so that "spectral complexity" becomes > "difference from a known spectrum". That makes things much more > objective.
Seems to be the definition of "coherence"? See chapter 11 of Bendat & Piersol: Random Data, 4th edition, Wiley 2000. Rune
Reply by Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use) February 3, 20062006-02-03
After reading these answers and thinking carefully, I've decided to
redesign my experiments so that "spectral complexity" becomes
"difference from a known spectrum". That makes things much more
objective.

Cheers,

Ross-c

Reply by Ron N. February 1, 20062006-02-01
Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use) wrote:
> Hi. Are there any widely used measures of spectral complexity. What I > mean is something that would say how spectrally complex a sound is such > that a pure sine wave would be mapped to 0 and white noise would be > mapped to 1. I could use a goodness of fit test comparing the > distribution of amplitude among spectral bins (after an fft) to a > uniform distribution, but imagine there are much better tests.
In DTMF decoding, Parseval's theorem is often used to calculate the ratio of energy in the expected bins versus the total energy of the signal for evaluating signal validity. Is this something like what you were looking for? IMHO. YMMV. -- rhn A.T nicholson d.0.t C-o-M
Reply by Fred Marshall February 1, 20062006-02-01
"Ross Clement (Email address invalid - do not use)" <clemenr@wmin.ac.uk> 
wrote in message 
news:1138781594.249117.90320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Hi. Are there any widely used measures of spectral complexity. What I > mean is something that would say how spectrally complex a sound is such > that a pure sine wave would be mapped to 0 and white noise would be > mapped to 1. I could use a goodness of fit test comparing the > distribution of amplitude among spectral bins (after an fft) to a > uniform distribution, but imagine there are much better tests. >
That sounds like a reasonable starting place. What does "complexity" mean to you? That's another good starting place. Fred