>
> One more Question.....
>
> (5) If we have a 10Khz Processor and DAQ Card which samples at
> 100Khz/Samples......Can we have such configuration ????
Sure.
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Jani Huhtanen
Tampere University of Technology, Pori
Reply by Clay S. Turner●May 10, 20062006-05-10
"Mike Yarwood" <mpyarwood@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Consider your flicking through a book that may answer some of these
>> questions
>> But you are going too fast
>>
>> Can you assimilate the contents?
>
> Is it printed on rice-paper?
>
Alimentary!
Reply by Mike Yarwood●May 9, 20062006-05-09
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> <programmer.james@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Will anybody please try to reply the questions rather than starting out
>> a new topic.
>>
>> Please
>> Andor wrote:
>> > Jerry Avins wrote:
>> > ...
>> > > You need two samplers only if you can't know that your sample
>> > > and signal periods don't have a non-trivial common divisor.
>> >
>> > Or if you want the scheme to work for periodic signals with no
>> > restriction on the period. The extension to two samplers should have
>> > occured to me when I posted the original riddle.
>>
>
>
> Consider your flicking through a book that may answer some of these
> questions
> But you are going too fast
>
> Can you assimilate the contents?
Is it printed on rice-paper?
Best of luck - Mike
Reply by Setanta●May 6, 20062006-05-06
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>
> Will anybody please try to reply the questions rather than starting out
> a new topic.
>
> Please
> Andor wrote:
> > Jerry Avins wrote:
> > ...
> > > You need two samplers only if you can't know that your sample
> > > and signal periods don't have a non-trivial common divisor.
> >
> > Or if you want the scheme to work for periodic signals with no
> > restriction on the period. The extension to two samplers should have
> > occured to me when I posted the original riddle.
>
Consider your flicking through a book that may answer some of these
questions
But you are going too fast
Can you assimilate the contents?
Reply by Steve Underwood●May 6, 20062006-05-06
programmer.james@gmail.com wrote:
> Will anybody please try to reply the questions rather than starting out
> a new topic.
>
> Please
I guess you're new around here :-)
> Andor wrote:
>
>>Jerry Avins wrote:
>>...
>>
>>>You need two samplers only if you can't know that your sample
>>>and signal periods don't have a non-trivial common divisor.
>>
>>Or if you want the scheme to work for periodic signals with no
>>restriction on the period. The extension to two samplers should have
>>occured to me when I posted the original riddle.
Steve
Reply by Frnak McKenney●May 6, 20062006-05-06
On 6 May 2006 05:38:10 -0700, Andor <andor.bariska@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok James, let's see what your question was:
>
> James wrote:
>> (5) If we have a 10Khz Processor and DAQ Card which samples at
>> 100Khz/Samples......Can we have such configuration ????
>
> Think about this for a moment: the postman rings at your door 10 times,
> but you are still sleepy and only have the energy to answer the door
> once. Can you arrange yourself with the postman so that you can still
> collect all 10 letters?
Given that today is Saturday, the answer is obvious. I'd (re-)invent
the ultra-low-speed high-capacity packetized buffer, go back to sleep,
and check the contents at a later date. Tuesday, maybe.
Oh, and I'd disconnect the interrupt signal line. (Ack! Phlbbt!)
Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
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Reply by Andor●May 6, 20062006-05-06
Ok James, let's see what your question was:
James wrote:
> (5) If we have a 10Khz Processor and DAQ Card which samples at
> 100Khz/Samples......Can we have such configuration ????
Think about this for a moment: the postman rings at your door 10 times,
but you are still sleepy and only have the energy to answer the door
once. Can you arrange yourself with the postman so that you can still
collect all 10 letters?
Reply by ●May 6, 20062006-05-06
Will anybody please try to reply the questions rather than starting out
a new topic.
Please
Andor wrote:
> Jerry Avins wrote:
> ...
> > You need two samplers only if you can't know that your sample
> > and signal periods don't have a non-trivial common divisor.
>
> Or if you want the scheme to work for periodic signals with no
> restriction on the period. The extension to two samplers should have
> occured to me when I posted the original riddle.
Reply by Andor●May 5, 20062006-05-05
Jerry Avins wrote:
...
> You need two samplers only if you can't know that your sample
> and signal periods don't have a non-trivial common divisor.
Or if you want the scheme to work for periodic signals with no
restriction on the period. The extension to two samplers should have
occured to me when I posted the original riddle.
Reply by Jerry Avins●May 5, 20062006-05-05
Andor wrote:
> Jerry Avins wrote:
> ...
>>> It is possible to sample under the nyquist frequency and still represent the
>>> actual signal - without pre-filtering.
>>> What is needed are a number channels - sampling at different frequencies -
>>> selecting - for instance - three channels sampling at well chosen
>>> frequencies wrt to the system frequency up to 2000 times the maximum
>>> sampling rate can be detected in the signal - and aliasing can be removed
>>> simply.
>> Please tell me more.
>
> That technique is concerned with sampling _periodic_ wide-band signals.
> They propose a system using three samplers, wich can reconstruct
> periodic signals with highest frequency up to 5000 times the frequency
> of the highest sampler.
>
> I believe them. The simple reason is because I can do even better :-).
> I propose a system using only two (regular) samplers, both of which can
> have an arbitrary low upper bound on their sampling rate. Using my
> system, one can perfectly reconstruct continuous periodic signals with
> no bound on the highest harmonic (ie non-bandlimited signals).
>
> Interested? I wouldn't be surprised if you already knew the answer,
> Jerry :-).
Andor,
You spoil the fun. I wanted the OP to explain that. Also to estimate how
long a sample must be taken and how stable the signal needs to be over
that time. You need two samplers only if you can't know that your sample
and signal periods don't have a non-trivial common divisor.
Jerry
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