Richard Owlett wrote:
> I haven't had any math in over 40 years.
> "graph" has always meant plotting Y as function of x.
>
> I'm going to be using "graph" to at least three distinct *audiences*
>    1. Scilab news group when discussing Metanet
>       This should cause no problem as using term Metanet sets context.
>    2. An engineering newsgroup whose normal use would of use re plotting
>       a function, but would also be familiar with use describing a group
>       of nodes and associated paths.
>    3. My employer who *PRIMARY* association with "graph" would be either
>       a "bar chart" or a "pie chart".
>
> What term may I safely use in all contexts. In the third instance I'm
> not so concerned that they actually understand me, BUT that they can not
> come to the *FALSE* conclusion that they do understand me.

Heh, I can see your primary line of work shining through here. I've
just been
attended a safety course before going to sea, and lots of the stuff is
centered
around safe comminication and avoiding misunderstandings.

As for your question:

1: I don't know. I am not familiar with that context. If this is the
type of
   graphs occuring in the traveling salesman problem, use "node graph"
   or something similar.

2: I would use "function plot". If you don't want to use the term
"plot,"
   you might at least include the term "function."

3: Use the terms "graph" or "plot" as you see fit when presenting
   your own material, and make sure to use the term "chart" when
   discussing pie charts and bar charts.

> PS - I'd not come across "graph" in this sense until three months ago.
>       I now may be assured of a full night's sleep.

You may have noted in the past that I am a bit uptight about at
least trying to use the correct terms in the correct contexts.

Now you understand why.

Rune

"Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote in message 
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> Mike Yarwood wrote:
>> "Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote in message 
>> news:127eq9kamos6983@corp.supernews.com...
>>
<snip>
>
> I had looked at both http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Graph.html and 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory . Neither seemed to encourage 
> use of a specific term to convey idea to uninitiated.
>
> "vertex-edge graph" would clearly do for first two categories.
> For the third it would at least flag to intelligent manager that IT might 
> need be consulted. Unfortunately I believe our IT people are EXTREMELY 
> business oriented with little math background.
The nice thing about that page is the fairly detailed description of 
different classifications : If you really want to dlag that your IT people 
might want to pay attention you can always explain to them that you are 
dealing with time-varying, labelled,directed pseudographs ;>
>
> I've just 'discovered' graphs.
> They are a great way of expressing why we couriers do routes as we do.
> I has promise of revising routes to save time and fuel.
>
> Gee, do i sound like someone who has just discovered a new toy ;/
Yeah, but it's a really neat one so you're entitled to show it off to all 
your friends.

As you are planning the efficient delivery of medical supplies you could 
call it a Health and Efficiency Graph? (if you want to get your managers 
attention|^>)

Best of Luck - Mike

Mike Yarwood wrote:
> "Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote in message 
> news:127eq9kamos6983@corp.supernews.com...
> 
>>I haven't had any math in over 40 years.
>>"graph" has always meant plotting Y as function of x.
>>
>>I'm going to be using "graph" to at least three distinct *audiences*
>>  1. Scilab news group when discussing Metanet
>>     This should cause no problem as using term Metanet sets context.
>>  2. An engineering newsgroup whose normal use would of use re plotting
>>     a function, but would also be familiar with use describing a group
>>     of nodes and associated paths.
>>  3. My employer who *PRIMARY* association with "graph" would be either
>>     a "bar chart" or a "pie chart".
>>
>>What term may I safely use in all contexts. In the third instance I'm not 
>>so concerned that they actually understand me, BUT that they can not come 
>>to the *FALSE* conclusion that they do understand me.
>>
>>PS - I'd not come across "graph" in this sense until three months ago.
>>     I now may be assured of a full night's sleep.
>>
> 
> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Graph.html
> suggests that some people call it a "vertex-edge graph" for clarity but you 
> could maybe as easilly call it a time and motion graph as far as your 
> employer is concerned ?
> 
> Best of Luck - Mike
> 
> 

I had looked at both http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Graph.html and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory . Neither seemed to encourage 
use of a specific term to convey idea to uninitiated.

"vertex-edge graph" would clearly do for first two categories.
For the third it would at least flag to intelligent manager that IT 
might need be consulted. Unfortunately I believe our IT people are 
EXTREMELY business oriented with little math background.

I've just 'discovered' graphs.
They are a great way of expressing why we couriers do routes as we do.
I has promise of revising routes to save time and fuel.

Gee, do i sound like someone who has just discovered a new toy ;/

"Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote in message 
news:127eq9kamos6983@corp.supernews.com...
>
> I haven't had any math in over 40 years.
> "graph" has always meant plotting Y as function of x.
>
> I'm going to be using "graph" to at least three distinct *audiences*
>   1. Scilab news group when discussing Metanet
>      This should cause no problem as using term Metanet sets context.
>   2. An engineering newsgroup whose normal use would of use re plotting
>      a function, but would also be familiar with use describing a group
>      of nodes and associated paths.
>   3. My employer who *PRIMARY* association with "graph" would be either
>      a "bar chart" or a "pie chart".
>
> What term may I safely use in all contexts. In the third instance I'm not 
> so concerned that they actually understand me, BUT that they can not come 
> to the *FALSE* conclusion that they do understand me.
>
> PS - I'd not come across "graph" in this sense until three months ago.
>      I now may be assured of a full night's sleep.
>
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Graph.html
suggests that some people call it a "vertex-edge graph" for clarity but you 
could maybe as easilly call it a time and motion graph as far as your 
employer is concerned ?

Best of Luck - Mike

I haven't had any math in over 40 years.
"graph" has always meant plotting Y as function of x.

I'm going to be using "graph" to at least three distinct *audiences*
   1. Scilab news group when discussing Metanet
      This should cause no problem as using term Metanet sets context.
   2. An engineering newsgroup whose normal use would of use re plotting
      a function, but would also be familiar with use describing a group
      of nodes and associated paths.
   3. My employer who *PRIMARY* association with "graph" would be either
      a "bar chart" or a "pie chart".

What term may I safely use in all contexts. In the third instance I'm 
not so concerned that they actually understand me, BUT that they can not 
come to the *FALSE* conclusion that they do understand me.

PS - I'd not come across "graph" in this sense until three months ago.
      I now may be assured of a full night's sleep.

Thank you.