audioGuy30 wrote:
> I want to pursue a PhD in Electrical/Computer/Audio engineering and would
> like a university that has active research for 3D audio (HRTFs). However,
> I don't want the typical suggestions that I receive like UC Davis, U
> Maryland College Park and MIT. I am aware of these programs. I am hoping
> that maybe there are some less know, but good programs, that I can try.
> The reason is I want to apply to as many universities as I can just in
> case I get rejected to the 3 mentioned above (which is highly likely).
> 

How about turning your question on its head. Or in vernacular of this 
group, "transform" from one problem space to another.

Your mention of "3D" and robert's answer (before I Googled for 
definition of HRTF) brought to mind George Lucas and Industrial Light & 
Magic. I was tempted to suggest contacting him and asking where he would 
like staff trained.

I think my general idea is valid.

Who is leading person in sub-specialty that interests you?
Write, asking him what school(s) he likes to hire from.

Specify that you are interested in "a", "b", and "c" which just happen 
to be weak points of schools you wish to avoid. Also specify that you 
are not particularly interested in "c", "d" and "e" which coincidently 
are the strong points of schools you wish to avoid. Include 2 to 3 
sentences describing what you've already accomplished in an area meeting 
those criteria.

The result could be anywhere between NULL and a full scholarship.
Even if NULL, after earning your degree and applying for a job he may 
say "I've heard that name before."

Best wishes.

On Aug 8, 1:39 pm, robert bristow-johnson <r...@audioimagination.com>
wrote:

>
> on this side of the pond (it might be better in Europe), it is still
> the case that most EE departments hold their nose up a little at audio
> and any related topic that isn't something they see in IEEE
> transactions (if it doesn't help target missles that kill America's
> enemies, it's really just toy engineering).  a quarter century ago, i
> was trying to "pursue a PhD in Electrical/Computer/Audio engineering
> " (but not with HRTFs and 3D sound, just synthesis of musical tones)
> and i could barely get an advisor in my department and eventually my
> PhD fell by the wayside.  you might have some of the same trouble in
> an EE department.  you might want to get into one of these alternate
> program/departments.  check out getting some scholarship from the AES,
> if you want.
>

Unfortunately this is true.  Some European universities
are very good at this subject though, such as at EPFL.
Check out http://lcavwww.epfl.ch.

Julius

On Aug 8, 2:22 pm, "audioGuy30" <jfalle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >I want to pursue a PhD in Electrical/Computer/Audio engineering and would
> >like a university that has active research for 3D audio (HRTFs).
> However,
> >I don't want the typical suggestions that I receive like UC Davis, U
> >Maryland College Park and MIT. I am aware of these programs. I am hoping
> >that maybe there are some less know, but good programs, that I can try.
> >The reason is I want to apply to as many universities as I can just in
> >case I get rejected to the 3 mentioned above (which is highly likely).
>
> I meant that is is not likely that i will get in UC Davis, U Maryland
> College Park and MIT. Didn't mean to sound conceited.


Penn State has some kinda graduate program in acoustics.  CCRMA
(Stanford) and CNMAT (UC Berkeley) is a little *music* oriented, but
they both do real science/engineering with real math.  Northwestern's
(Evanston IL) Computer Music program was doing stuff like that when I
was there a quarter century ago.

on this side of the pond (it might be better in Europe), it is still
the case that most EE departments hold their nose up a little at audio
and any related topic that isn't something they see in IEEE
transactions (if it doesn't help target missles that kill America's
enemies, it's really just toy engineering).  a quarter century ago, i
was trying to "pursue a PhD in Electrical/Computer/Audio engineering
" (but not with HRTFs and 3D sound, just synthesis of musical tones)
and i could barely get an advisor in my department and eventually my
PhD fell by the wayside.  you might have some of the same trouble in
an EE department.  you might want to get into one of these alternate
program/departments.  check out getting some scholarship from the AES,
if you want.

rots o' ruck.

r b-j

>I want to pursue a PhD in Electrical/Computer/Audio engineering and would
>like a university that has active research for 3D audio (HRTFs).
However,
>I don't want the typical suggestions that I receive like UC Davis, U
>Maryland College Park and MIT. I am aware of these programs. I am hoping
>that maybe there are some less know, but good programs, that I can try.
>The reason is I want to apply to as many universities as I can just in
>case I get rejected to the 3 mentioned above (which is highly likely).
>
>
>

I meant that is is not likely that i will get in UC Davis, U Maryland
College Park and MIT. Didn't mean to sound conceited.

>I want to pursue a PhD in Electrical/Computer/Audio engineering and would
>like a university that has active research for 3D audio (HRTFs).
However,
>I don't want the typical suggestions that I receive like UC Davis, U
>Maryland College Park and MIT. I am aware of these programs. I am hoping
>that maybe there are some less know, but good programs, that I can try.
>The reason is I want to apply to as many universities as I can just in
>case I get rejected to the 3 mentioned above (which is highly likely).
>
>
>

I meant that is is not likely that i will get in UC Davis, U Maryland
College Park and MIT. Didn't mean to sound conceited.