Reply by Eric Jacobsen March 12, 20082008-03-12
You need to know how many of the 256 points in the FFT are populated,
data-carrying  subarriers.   Some are probably for guard band and some
are probably for pilot tones.

Once you know how many data subcarriers there are, multiply that
number by the number of bits per subcarrier per symbol (2 for DQPSK),
and divide that by the OFDM symbol duration, which you indicate is 6.4
microseconds.

So bits/subcarrier times number of subcarriers, then divide by symbol
duration.


On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:30:32 -0500, "Richard_K" <ngyh80@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>>On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:42:52 -0500, "Richard_K" <ngyh80@hotmail.com> >>wrote: >Hi, > >The details are as following: > >FFT size: 256 >Bandwidth 4.3MHz - 20.9MHz >Modulation: DQPSK >Useful duration: 5.12 microseconds >Useful duration + Guard interval: 6.4 microseconds >Sampling frequency: 50MHz > >In this regard, does the data rate of the physical layer have anything to >do with the sampling frequency? (How the sampling frequency affects the >data rate?) Also, may I know how to calculate the data rate of the OFDM >system based on the above information? > >Many thanks. > >> >>> >>>For OFDM system with the sampling frequency of 50MHz and BPSK >modulation >>>scheme,what will be the data rate at physical layer? Will it be >>>50Mbits/second as well? >>> >>>Please help. Thanks. >> >>One needs a lot more information to be able to say. >> >>For OFDM the raw bit rate will be the number of bits per constellation >>symbol (one in the case of BPSK), times the number of subcarriers >>(which is unknown), times the OFDM symbol rate (which is also >>unspecified). >> >>Since the sample rate can be anything above the minimum sample rate >>needed to support the bandwidth, there's really no way to tell from >>the information you've given. >> >>Eric Jacobsen >>Minister of Algorithms >>Abineau Communications >>http://www.ericjacobsen.org >>
Eric Jacobsen Minister of Algorithms Abineau Communications http://www.ericjacobsen.org
Reply by Richard_K March 10, 20082008-03-10
>On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:42:52 -0500, "Richard_K" <ngyh80@hotmail.com> >wrote:
Hi, The details are as following: FFT size: 256 Bandwidth 4.3MHz - 20.9MHz Modulation: DQPSK Useful duration: 5.12 microseconds Useful duration + Guard interval: 6.4 microseconds Sampling frequency: 50MHz In this regard, does the data rate of the physical layer have anything to do with the sampling frequency? (How the sampling frequency affects the data rate?) Also, may I know how to calculate the data rate of the OFDM system based on the above information? Many thanks.
> >> >>For OFDM system with the sampling frequency of 50MHz and BPSK
modulation
>>scheme,what will be the data rate at physical layer? Will it be >>50Mbits/second as well? >> >>Please help. Thanks. > >One needs a lot more information to be able to say. > >For OFDM the raw bit rate will be the number of bits per constellation >symbol (one in the case of BPSK), times the number of subcarriers >(which is unknown), times the OFDM symbol rate (which is also >unspecified). > >Since the sample rate can be anything above the minimum sample rate >needed to support the bandwidth, there's really no way to tell from >the information you've given. > >Eric Jacobsen >Minister of Algorithms >Abineau Communications >http://www.ericjacobsen.org >
Reply by Eric Jacobsen March 10, 20082008-03-10
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:42:52 -0500, "Richard_K" <ngyh80@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> >For OFDM system with the sampling frequency of 50MHz and BPSK modulation >scheme,what will be the data rate at physical layer? Will it be >50Mbits/second as well? > >Please help. Thanks.
One needs a lot more information to be able to say. For OFDM the raw bit rate will be the number of bits per constellation symbol (one in the case of BPSK), times the number of subcarriers (which is unknown), times the OFDM symbol rate (which is also unspecified). Since the sample rate can be anything above the minimum sample rate needed to support the bandwidth, there's really no way to tell from the information you've given. Eric Jacobsen Minister of Algorithms Abineau Communications http://www.ericjacobsen.org
Reply by Tim Wescott March 10, 20082008-03-10
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:42:52 -0500, Richard_K wrote:

> For OFDM system with the sampling frequency of 50MHz and BPSK modulation > scheme,what will be the data rate at physical layer? Will it be > 50Mbits/second as well? > > Please help. Thanks.
Comment 1: Why go to the trouble to make an OFDM system and only use BPSK modulation? Wouldn't you at least want to use QPSK, if not some more complicated constellation? Comment 2: If it truly is BPSK (and if I've got my head screwed on straight -- the caffeine hasn't hit yet this morning) then 50Mbits/sec would be the theoretical upper bound, and then only if you have no overhead and precise synchronization. A more realistic bound would be significantly less than 1/2 that, with room to grow downward to an almost infinite extent. Without other knowledge of the system I would hesitate to assign any actual bit rate just from knowledge of the sampling rate. Comment 3: Your post lacks in detail, which is why (caffeine aside) mine lacks certitude. Tell us what you're _really_ working on, and someone will give you better information. -- Tim Wescott Control systems and communications consulting http://www.wescottdesign.com Need to learn how to apply control theory in your embedded system? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" by Tim Wescott Elsevier/Newnes, http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html
Reply by Richard_K March 10, 20082008-03-10
For OFDM system with the sampling frequency of 50MHz and BPSK modulation
scheme,what will be the data rate at physical layer? Will it be
50Mbits/second as well?

Please help. Thanks.