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Started by Unknown October 21, 2001
Hi,

I have been wondering if is it possible to do SHARC and 218X-219x
development on the same computer, I mean, VisualDSP++ 1.0 SP1 and
VisualDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx on the same hard disk?

Any pointer on how to do it is ver, very welcomed.

Best regards,



On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 18:57:08 -0000, wrote:

> I have been wondering if is it possible to do SHARC and 218X-219x
> development on the same computer, I mean, VisualDSP++ 1.0 SP1 and
> VisualDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx on the same hard disk?

I haven't used that combination, but I've used VDSP 1SP1 together with
the motor controls development system for the ADMC401. The latter
installs the command line tools for the 21xx core into the VDSP
directories.


The motor controls tools don't use the VDSP IDE right now, so there's
no conflict. MCD (at least for the 401) uses a separate debugger.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:10:24 -0700 (PDT), Jaime Andres Aranguren
Cardona wrote:

> Hi Kenneth,
> Any problems with the IDE?
>
> Kenneth Porter <> wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct
2001 18:57:08 -0000, wrote:
>
> > I have been wondering if is it possible to do SHARC and 218X-219x
> > development on the same computer, I mean, VisualDSP++ 1.0 SP1 and
> > VisualDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx on the same hard disk?
>
> I haven't used that combination, but I've used VDSP 1SP1 together with
> the motor controls development system for the ADMC401. The latter
> installs the command line tools for the 21xx core into the VDSP
> directories.




Hi,

The sharc version of VisualDSP++ will NOT co-exist with the 21xx VisualDSP++.

This is what Tech Support told me last march:

Chuck,
You can install as many different versions as you want, but
unfortunately they're just not going to work (and will probably give windows
a heart-attack). Our tools weren't designed to co-exist with one another,
so the only way you would really be able to get both versions on one machine
would be to totally isolate each of them by dual-booting your machine with
dual partitions.

Of course the sharc VisualDSP++ 2.0 will be able to co-exist with the 21xx
stuff. Unfortunately for me,
I've got products in the field using VDSP 4.x.x, so I'll never be able to take
advantage of that wonderful
future co-existence.

hope this helps... "Kenneth Porter" <> on 10/22/2001 17:38:59

Please respond to "Kenneth Porter" <>

To: "SHARC list" <>
cc: "" <> (bcc: Chuck
Petras/SEL)
Subject: Re: [adsp] VDSP++ for SHARC and 21xx on the same hard disk
The motor controls tools don't use the VDSP IDE right now, so there's
no conflict. MCD (at least for the 401) uses a separate debugger.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:10:24 -0700 (PDT), Jaime Andres Aranguren
Cardona wrote:

> Hi Kenneth,
> Any problems with the IDE?
>
> Kenneth Porter <> wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct
2001 18:57:08 -0000, wrote:
>
> > I have been wondering if is it possible to do SHARC and 218X-219x
> > development on the same computer, I mean, VisualDSP++ 1.0 SP1 and
> > VisualDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx on the same hard disk?
>
> I haven't used that combination, but I've used VDSP 1SP1 together with
> the motor controls development system for the ADMC401. The latter
> installs the command line tools for the 21xx core into the VDSP
> directories.
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Hi,

Actually the current SHARC version of VisualDSP++ (1.0) WILL co-exist with
the current version of VisualDSP++ for 21xx (2.0)
I have both running on my laptop, installed into the same directory, and
are not having any problems.
But the older tools of 21xx (6.1, 7.0) will not co-exist with anything that
isn't 2.0.

Regards,
Eirik At 05:52 PM 10/22/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Hi,
>
>The sharc version of VisualDSP++ will NOT co-exist with the 21xx VisualDSP++.
>
>This is what Tech Support told me last march:
>
>Chuck,
> You can install as many different versions as you want, but
>unfortunately they're just not going to work (and will probably give windows
>a heart-attack). Our tools weren't designed to co-exist with one another,
>so the only way you would really be able to get both versions on one machine
>would be to totally isolate each of them by dual-booting your machine with
>dual partitions.
>
>Of course the sharc VisualDSP++ 2.0 will be able to co-exist with the 21xx
>stuff. Unfortunately for me,
>I've got products in the field using VDSP 4.x.x, so I'll never be able to take
>advantage of that wonderful
>future co-existence.
>
>hope this helps... >"Kenneth Porter" <> on 10/22/2001 17:38:59
>
>Please respond to "Kenneth Porter" <>
>
>To: "SHARC list" <>
>cc: "" <> (bcc:
>Chuck
> Petras/SEL)
>Subject: Re: [adsp] VDSP++ for SHARC and 21xx on the same hard disk >
>The motor controls tools don't use the VDSP IDE right now, so there's
>no conflict. MCD (at least for the 401) uses a separate debugger.
>
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:10:24 -0700 (PDT), Jaime Andres Aranguren
>Cardona wrote:
>
> > Hi Kenneth,
> > Any problems with the IDE?
> >
> > Kenneth Porter <> wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct
>2001 18:57:08 -0000, wrote:
> >
> > > I have been wondering if is it possible to do SHARC and 218X-219x
> > > development on the same computer, I mean, VisualDSP++ 1.0 SP1 and
> > > VisualDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx on the same hard disk?
> >
> > I haven't used that combination, but I've used VDSP 1SP1 together with
> > the motor controls development system for the ADMC401. The latter
> > installs the command line tools for the 21xx core into the VDSP
> > directories. >
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Hi, guys.

I don't know who should I trust to. I would like Eirik, but certeinly, I don't want to become unuseful my actual installation of VDSP 1.0 for SHARC. So, should I first install VDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx and over it, install VDSP 1.0 SP1 for SHARC? Or viceversa?

What about the installation messages that appear standing that the new installation will "upgrade" the actual one? Does it mean it will replace the IDE, compiler, debugger and so on? In such a case, it is abolutely worthless.

Best regards,

Jaime.

 

  Eirik Jensen <e...@bit.no> wrote:

Hi,

Actually the current SHARC version of VisualDSP++ (1.0) WILL co-exist with
the current version of VisualDSP++ for 21xx (2.0)
I have both running on my laptop, installed into the same directory, and
are not having any problems.
But the older tools of 21xx (6.1, 7.0) will not co-exist with anything that
isn't 2.0.

Regards,
EirikAt 05:52 PM 10/22/2001 -0700, you wrote:>Hi,
>
>The sharc version of VisualDSP++ will NOT co-exist with the 21xx VisualDSP++.
>
>This is what Tech Support told me last march:
>
>Chuck,
> You can install as many different versions as you want, but
>unfortunately they're just not going to work (and will probably give windows
>a heart-attack). Our tools weren't designed to co-exist with one another,
>so the only way you would really be able to get both versions on one machine
>would be to totally isolate each of them by dual-booting your machine with
>dual partitions.
>
>Of course the sharc VisualDSP++ 2.0 will be able to co-exist with the 21xx
>stuff. Unfortunately for me,
>I've got products in the field using VDSP 4.x.x, so I'll never be able to take
>advantage of that wonderful
>future co-existence.
>
>hope this helps...>"Kenneth Porter" on 10/22/2001 17:38:59
>
>Please respond to "Kenneth Porter"
>
>To: "SHARC list"
>cc: "j...@computer.org" (bcc:
>Chuck
> Petras/SEL)
>Subject: Re: [adsp] VDSP++ for SHARC and 21xx on the same hard disk>
>The motor controls tools don't use the VDSP IDE right now, so there's
>no conflict. MCD (at least for the 401) uses a separate debugger.
>
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:10:24 -0700 (PDT), Jaime Andres Aranguren
>Cardona wrote:
>
> > Hi Kenneth,
> > Any problems with the IDE?
> >
> > Kenneth Porter wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct
>2001 18:57:08 -0000, j...@ieee.org wrote:
> >
> > > I have been wondering if is it possible to do SHARC and 218X-219x
> > > development on the same computer, I mean, VisualDSP++ 1.0 SP1 and
> > > VisualDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx on the same hard disk?
> >
> > I haven't used that combination, but I've used VDSP 1SP1 together with
> > the motor controls development system for the ADMC401. The latter
> > installs the command line tools for the 21xx core into the VDSP
> > directories.>
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Jaime Andr Aranguren Cardona
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j...@computer.org




Hi,

I had the VDSP++ 1.0 already installed, and just installed the ++2.0 over.
Actually I have them both running now....
It will not replace the IDE, and the ++2.0 has a "new" IDE called IDDE
(they have added a Debug..:), and the compiler, linker, assembler will put
itself nicely in together with the SHARC tools. The debugger also will not
be touched, as it now is integrated into the IDDE. Of course you can call
this an upgrade, as you now also have the new compiler, asm, and linker.
ADI does not recommend putting the two tools on the same computer, and that
you should wait for the ++2.0 release of the SHARC tools (sometime at the
end of the month, I believe). The 2.0 versions of tools (SHARC, 21xx,
BlackFIN, TS) are supposed to be able to live happily together.
But if you are in a hurry, and need the two tools on the same computer,
there isn't much stopping you.... at least in my experience.

Regards,
Eirik At 07:29 AM 10/23/2001 -0700, Jaime Andres Aranguren Cardona wrote:

>Hi, guys.
>
>I don't know who should I trust to. I would like Eirik, but certeinly, I
>don't want to become unuseful my actual installation of VDSP 1.0 for
>SHARC. So, should I first install VDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx and over it, install
>VDSP 1.0 SP1 for SHARC? Or viceversa?
>
>What about the installation messages that appear standing that the new
>installation will "upgrade" the actual one? Does it mean it will replace
>the IDE, compiler, debugger and so on? In such a case, it is abolutely
>worthless.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Jaime. >
> Eirik Jensen <> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Actually the current SHARC version of VisualDSP++ (1.0) WILL co-exist with
>the current version of VisualDSP++ for 21xx (2.0)
>I have both running on my laptop, installed into the same directory, and
>are not having any problems.
>But the older tools of 21xx (6.1, 7.0) will not co-exist with anything that
>isn't 2.0.
>
>Regards,
>Eirik >
>At 05:52 PM 10/22/2001 -0700, you wrote: >
> >Hi,
> >
> >The sharc version of VisualDSP++ will NOT co-exist with the 21xx
> VisualDSP++.
> >
> >This is what Tech Support told me last march:
> >
> >Chuck,
> > You can install as many different versions as you want, but
> >unfortunately they're just not going to work (and will probably give
> windows
> >a heart-attack). Our tools weren't designed to co-exist with one another,
> >so the only way you would really be able to get ! both versions on one
> machine
> >would be to totally isolate each of them by dual-booting your machine with
> >dual partitions.
> >
> >Of course the sharc VisualDSP++ 2.0 will be able to co-exist with the 21xx
> >stuff. Unfortunately for me,
> >I've got products in the field using VDSP 4.x.x, so I'll never be able
> to take
> >advantage of that wonderful
> >future co-existence.
> >
> >hope this helps...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Kenneth Porter" on 10/22/2001 17:38:59
> >
> >Please respond to "Kenneth Porter"
> >
> >To: "SHARC list"
> >cc: "" (bcc:
> >Chuck
> > Petras/SEL)
> >Subject: Re: [adsp] VDSP++ for SHARC and 21xx on the same hard disk
> >
> >
> >
> >The motor controls tools don't use the VDSP IDE right now, so ther! e's
> >no conflict. MCD (at least for the 401) uses a separate debugger.
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:10:24 -0700 (PDT), Jaime Andres Aranguren
> >Cardona wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Kenneth,
> > > Any problems with the IDE?
> > >
> > > Kenneth Porter wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct
> >2001 18:57:08 -0000, wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have been wondering if is it possible to do SHARC and 218X-219x
> > > > development on the same computer, I mean, VisualDSP++ 1.0 SP1 and
> > > > VisualDSP++ 2.0 for 21xx on the same hard disk?
> > >
> > > I haven't used that combination, but I've used VDSP 1SP1 together with
> > > the motor controls development system for the ADMC401. The latter
> > > installs the command line tools for the 21xx core into the VDSP
> > > directories.
> >
> >
> >
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