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Eliminating the periodicity in a periodic signal..

Started by geha...@yahoo.com February 10, 2009
Dear all,
I have a periodic signal, that I would like to study..However, I want to eliminate the periodicity in it, and study the remainder of the data..In other words , is it possible to break down a periodic signal into 2 composite signals (one periodic and the other non-periodic) that when added produce the original periodic signal ...In that manner i can process the non-periodic composite signal..
Regards
Hi,
I am not exactly sure of your need. Are you planning to remove a
sinusoidal? If you don't know the periodicity or the shape of the
periodic components, you can pass thru a predictive error filter to
separate the signal components. Once the predictive error filter adapts,
it can be used to break the signal into the two components.
Hope this helps,
Lalin

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From: a... [mailto:a...] On
Behalf Of g...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:32 AM
To: a...
Subject: [audiodsp] Eliminating the periodicity in a periodic signal..

Dear all,
I have a periodic signal, that I would like to study..However, I want to
eliminate the periodicity in it, and study the remainder of the data..In
other words , is it possible to break down a periodic signal into 2
composite signals (one periodic and the other non-periodic) that when
added produce the original periodic signal ...In that manner i can
process the non-periodic composite signal..
Regards
If you have a signal that is periodic, then it is composed of a fundamental
frequency signal and harmonics of the fundamental. That means that all the
components are periodic, and all sums of components are periodic. I do not
think you will find a non-periodic component unless the signal itself is
non-periodic.

Does this sound right?
On 2/10/09, Theverapperuma Lalin (ST-CO/ENG2.3) <
l...@us.bosch.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am not exactly sure of your need. Are you planning to remove a
> sinusoidal? If you don't know the periodicity or the shape of the
> periodic components, you can pass thru a predictive error filter to
> separate the signal components. Once the predictive error filter adapts,
> it can be used to break the signal into the two components.
> Hope this helps,
> Lalin
> ________________________________
>
> From: a... [mailto:
> a... ] On
> Behalf Of g...@yahoo.com
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:32 AM
> To: a...
> Subject: [audiodsp] Eliminating the periodicity in a periodic signal..
>
> Dear all,
> I have a periodic signal, that I would like to study..However, I want to
> eliminate the periodicity in it, and study the remainder of the data..In
> other words , is it possible to break down a periodic signal into 2
> composite signals (one periodic and the other non-periodic) that when
> added produce the original periodic signal ...In that manner i can
> process the non-periodic composite signal..
> Regards
>
Dear John,
Thanks alot for your mail..The signal si periodic but does have some noise that i wanted to extract..Anyways, i found a way to do 'tidal or harmonicity' analysis..
Again thanks alot
Eng. Gehan Mustafa Kamel,
Teacher Assistant,
IT Dept., Faculty of Computers and Information,
Cairo University.

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, John Lombardo wrote:

From: John Lombardo
Subject: Re: [audiodsp] Eliminating the periodicity in a periodic signal..
To: "Theverapperuma Lalin (ST-CO/ENG2.3)"
Cc: g...@yahoo.com, a...
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 11:25 PM

If you have a signal that is periodic, then it is composed of a fundamental
frequency signal and harmonics of the fundamental. That means that all the
components are periodic, and all sums of components are periodic. I do not
think you will find a non-periodic component unless the signal itself is
non-periodic.

Does this sound right?

On 2/10/09, Theverapperuma Lalin (ST-CO/ENG2. 3) <
lalin.theverapperum a...@us.bosch. com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am not exactly sure of your need. Are you planning to remove a
> sinusoidal? If you don't know the periodicity or the shape of the
> periodic components, you can pass thru a predictive error filter to
> separate the signal components. Once the predictive error filter adapts,
> it can be used to break the signal into the two components.
> Hope this helps,
> Lalin
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From: audiodsp@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:
> audiodsp@yahoogroup s.com ] On
> Behalf Of gehan84@yahoo. com
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:32 AM
> To: audiodsp@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: [audiodsp] Eliminating the periodicity in a periodic signal..
>
> Dear all,
> I have a periodic signal, that I would like to study..However, I want to
> eliminate the periodicity in it, and study the remainder of the data..In
> other words , is it possible to break down a periodic signal into 2
> composite signals (one periodic and the other non-periodic) that when
> added produce the original periodic signal ...In that manner i can
> process the non-periodic composite signal..
> Regards
>