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Starter Kit TMS320C3x in Windows XP

Started by Miszael Montiel December 8, 2004

Hi !!!

I made an application program in Windows 98, but it
does not work in Windows XP, do not work the programs
that come with the StarterKit.I need Algun controller
to be able to connect the StarterKit with the PC. Thanks

Miszael.
__________________________________




Hello Miszael

A driver is needed for the WinNT variant OS's, WinNT, Win2K and WinXP.
If the driver was not installed, starting DSK3DW or any of the Windows
based applications should have caused an error message to pop up leading
you to the driver. The confusing part of the driver is that to make the
S/W free, it could not contain anything that had a license and fee to
it. What was opted for was to use one of two publicly available drivers
from the web. The error string that should have been displayed is given
below. By the way... this is the newest S/W from the TI web? Though
the applications are mostly VC33 DSK based, the debugger, code gen tool
and a few of the Windows applications will work with the C31 DSK.

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tmdsdsk33.html

Your problem description is also a bit vague. By 'Win98 Application' do
you mean that the application is a Windows applications running in a
windows-window, or a DOS/Console application running in a
command-window? If it is the latter XP will be a pain (or more likely
impossible), which is why the DSK applications were migrated to true
windows applications (allowing the drivers to be installed and used).
Yes programming Windows is much more complex to write and debug compared
to a simple console application, but that is sometimes the price we pay
for progress. The good news is that it does bring things back into
alignment with other PC advances like the possibility of using a USB
port. Incidentally, after leaving TI, this is one of the first things I
have done with the VC33/DSK tools. It is rather nice ot have a DSK that
does not even need an external power supply (USB has plenty to run this
DSP)! I would have like to had a USB-based version of the VC33 DSK out
under my own name, but have been tied up on another project. This may
happen in a few months, when and if my business partner and I get past
our present project.

On another note. At one time I was told that there is a Win98
compatibility mode that might work... but you have to hack away at the
OS (and pray that it does not die - XP dies even better than Win98) to
make it work. Basically, pursue this at your own peril!

By the way... what is 'Algun Controller'?

Best regards
Keith Larson

DSP and Analog Consultant
Lincoln, Mass
http://home.comcast.net/~klarsondsp

char DLL_SUPPORT[]=
"A SUPPORTED NT KERNEL MODE PORT IO DRIVER COULD NOT BE LOADED\n"
"\n"
"WinNT, WinXP or Win2K was detected. Compatible public\n"
"domain drivers include\n"
"\n"
"DLPORTIO.DLL: Scientific Software Tools\n"
"Download PORT95NT.EXE to install\n"
"http://www.driverlinx.com\n"
"\n"
"INPOUT32.DLL: Jan Axelson' Lakeview Research web\n"
"site (home of Parallel Port Complete)\n"
"http://www.lvr.com\n"
"\n"
"NOTE: THESE ARE NT KERNEL MODE DRIVERS. YOU MUST\n"
"HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE PRIVILEDGES TO INSTALL THEM!!!\n"
"\n"
"THESE DRIVERS ARE NOT OWNED OR ADMINISTERED BY TEXAS INSTRUMENTS\n"
"YOU MUST DOWNLOAD, INSTALL AND ABIDE BY THE RULES SET FORTH BY\n"
"THE RESPECTIVE AUTHORS";

-----------------
Miszael Montiel wrote:

Hi !!!

I made an application program in Windows 98, but it does not work in
Windows XP, do not work the programs that come with the StarterKit. I
need Algun controller to be able to connect the StarterKit with the PC.

Thanks

Miszael.





Hello Keith,

It would be nice to have a USB based version of the VC33, let me know
when you offer the card, if it is your plan.

And in Miszael email. I think "algun" is equal to some.

Best Regards

Mart Lez
CIATEC

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Keith Larson [mailto:]
Enviado el: Jueves, 09 de Diciembre de 2004 07:44 a.m.
Para: Miszael Montiel
CC:
Asunto: Re: [c3x] Starter Kit TMS320C3x in Windows XP Hello Miszael

A driver is needed for the WinNT variant OS's, WinNT, Win2K and WinXP.
If the driver was not installed, starting DSK3DW or any of the Windows
based applications should have caused an error message to pop up leading

you to the driver. The confusing part of the driver is that to make the
S/W free, it could not contain anything that had a license and fee to
it. What was opted for was to use one of two publicly available drivers

from the web. The error string that should have been displayed is given

below. By the way... this is the newest S/W from the TI web? Though
the applications are mostly VC33 DSK based, the debugger, code gen tool
and a few of the Windows applications will work with the C31 DSK.

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tmdsdsk33.html

Your problem description is also a bit vague. By 'Win98 Application' do

you mean that the application is a Windows applications running in a
windows-window, or a DOS/Console application running in a
command-window? If it is the latter XP will be a pain (or more likely
impossible), which is why the DSK applications were migrated to true
windows applications (allowing the drivers to be installed and used).
Yes programming Windows is much more complex to write and debug compared

to a simple console application, but that is sometimes the price we pay
for progress. The good news is that it does bring things back into
alignment with other PC advances like the possibility of using a USB
port. Incidentally, after leaving TI, this is one of the first things I

have done with the VC33/DSK tools. It is rather nice ot have a DSK that

does not even need an external power supply (USB has plenty to run this
DSP)! I would have like to had a USB-based version of the VC33 DSK out
under my own name, but have been tied up on another project. This may
happen in a few months, when and if my business partner and I get past
our present project.

On another note. At one time I was told that there is a Win98
compatibility mode that might work... but you have to hack away at the
OS (and pray that it does not die - XP dies even better than Win98) to
make it work. Basically, pursue this at your own peril!

By the way... what is 'Algun Controller'?

Best regards
Keith Larson

DSP and Analog Consultant
Lincoln, Mass
http://home.comcast.net/~klarsondsp

char DLL_SUPPORT[]=
"A SUPPORTED NT KERNEL MODE PORT IO DRIVER COULD NOT BE LOADED\n"
"\n"
"WinNT, WinXP or Win2K was detected. Compatible public\n"
"domain drivers include\n"
"\n"
"DLPORTIO.DLL: Scientific Software Tools\n"
"Download PORT95NT.EXE to install\n"
"http://www.driverlinx.com\n"
"\n"
"INPOUT32.DLL: Jan Axelson' Lakeview Research web\n"
"site (home of Parallel Port Complete)\n"
"http://www.lvr.com\n"
"\n"
"NOTE: THESE ARE NT KERNEL MODE DRIVERS. YOU MUST\n"
"HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE PRIVILEDGES TO INSTALL THEM!!!\n"
"\n"
"THESE DRIVERS ARE NOT OWNED OR ADMINISTERED BY TEXAS
INSTRUMENTS\n"
"YOU MUST DOWNLOAD, INSTALL AND ABIDE BY THE RULES SET FORTH BY\n"
"THE RESPECTIVE AUTHORS";

-----------------
Miszael Montiel wrote:

Hi !!!

I made an application program in Windows 98, but it does not work in
Windows XP, do not work the programs that come with the StarterKit. I
need Algun controller to be able to connect the StarterKit with the PC.

Thanks

Miszael.
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Hello Martin,

Ill keep you on the list.

Best regards
Keith Larson
-------------------------

Martín López Vela wrote:

Hello Keith,

It would be nice to have a USB based version of the VC33, let me know
when you offer the card, if it is your plan.

And in Miszael email. I think "algun" is equal to some.

Best Regards

Martín López
CIATEC

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Keith Larson [mailto:k...@comcast.net]
Enviado el: Jueves, 09 de Diciembre de 2004 07:44 a.m.
Para: Miszael Montiel
CC: c...@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [c3x] Starter Kit TMS320C3x in Windows XP Hello Miszael

A driver is needed for the WinNT variant OS's, WinNT, Win2K and WinXP. 
If the driver was not installed, starting DSK3DW or any of the Windows
based applications should have caused an error message to pop up leading

you to the driver. The confusing part of the driver is that to make the
S/W free, it could not contain anything that had a license and fee to
it.  What was opted for was to use one of two publicly available drivers

from the web.  The error string that should have been displayed is given

below.  By the way... this is the newest S/W from the TI web?  Though
the applications are mostly VC33 DSK based, the debugger, code gen tool
and a few of the Windows applications will work with the C31 DSK.

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tmdsdsk33.html

Your problem description is also a bit vague.  By 'Win98 Application' do

you mean that the application is a Windows applications running in a
windows-window, or a DOS/Console application running in a
command-window?  If it is the latter XP will be a pain (or more likely
impossible), which is why the DSK applications were migrated to true
windows applications (allowing the drivers to be installed and used). 
Yes programming Windows is much more complex to write and debug compared

to a simple console application, but that is sometimes the price we pay
for progress.  The good news is that it does bring things back into
alignment with other PC advances like the possibility of using a USB
port.  Incidentally, after leaving TI, this is one of the first things I

have done with the VC33/DSK tools.  It is rather nice ot have a DSK that

does not even need an external power supply (USB has plenty to run this
DSP)!  I would have like to had a USB-based version of the VC33 DSK out
under my own name, but have been tied up on another project.  This may
happen in a few months, when and if my business partner and I get past
our present project.

On another note.  At one time I was told that there is a Win98
compatibility mode that might work... but you have to hack away at the
OS (and pray that it does not die - XP dies even better than Win98) to
make it work. Basically, pursue this at your own peril!

By the way... what is 'Algun Controller'?

Best regards
Keith Larson

DSP and Analog Consultant
Lincoln, Mass
http://home.comcast.net/~klarsondsp

char DLL_SUPPORT[]=
    "A SUPPORTED NT KERNEL MODE PORT IO DRIVER COULD NOT BE LOADED\n"
    "\n"
    "WinNT, WinXP or Win2K was detected.  Compatible public\n"
    "domain drivers include\n"
    "\n"
    "DLPORTIO.DLL: Scientific Software Tools\n"
    "Download PORT95NT.EXE to install\n"
    "http://www.driverlinx.com\n"
    "\n"
    "INPOUT32.DLL: Jan Axelson' Lakeview Research web\n"
    "site (home of Parallel Port Complete)\n"
    "http://www.lvr.com\n"
    "\n"
    "NOTE: THESE ARE NT KERNEL MODE DRIVERS. YOU MUST\n"
    "HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE PRIVILEDGES TO INSTALL THEM!!!\n"
    "\n"
      "THESE DRIVERS ARE NOT OWNED OR ADMINISTERED BY TEXAS
INSTRUMENTS\n"
     "YOU MUST DOWNLOAD, INSTALL AND ABIDE BY THE RULES SET FORTH BY\n"
    "THE RESPECTIVE AUTHORS";

-----------------
Miszael Montiel wrote:

Hi !!!

I made an application program in Windows 98, but it does not work in
Windows XP, do not work the programs that come with the StarterKit.  I
need Algun controller to be able to connect the StarterKit with the PC.

Thanks

Miszael.

The attached file allows JEdit (an open source Java text editor) to do
proper syntax highlighting for C3x assembly files.

Enjoy,
Bill Finger



Attachment (not stored)
assembly-c3x.xml
Type: text/xml

Hi Bill

This is pretty cool. Now if JEdit could take on child windows, or if it
had the underpinnings for a debugger interface, it it might even be
possible to plug in an HLL interface. When I was at TI and wrote the DSK
interface I was not allowed to use 'open source' because it opened TI up
to that license agreement. So I basically wrote everything from
scratch. Not that this was all bad because I now have a big pile of
code to use for other things, but I am also no longer constrained.
Other options become open!

Best regards
Keith Larson
DSP and Analog Consultant
Lincoln Ma

(Ill be out till 1/6/05, so wont be making replies till then)

Bill Finger wrote:

>
> The attached file allows JEdit (an open source Java text editor) to do
> proper syntax highlighting for C3x assembly files.
>
> Enjoy,
> Bill Finger