On 20 Mar, 15:47, Pawel <prulikow...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Feb 8, 7:35�pm, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote: > > > On 8 Feb, 20:21, Pawel <prulikow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > This is not exactly what I expected but thanks anyway - I still > > > believe in people good heart and will. > > > Do you mean that somebody would send you what you want? > > Don't hold your breath - people here don't do homework > > for students and no one post canned solution. Of course, > > somebody might contact you behind the scenes, but you'll > > get faster response on clearer terms if you search up > > people who sell that kind of package. > > > Rune > > Rune, > > You are slightly arrogant in Your answers...Yeah, I know. I've turned filantropic over the last few months, as I'm only *slightly* arrogant thes days...> Why do You assume that I > am looking for cheap way to cheat?Because after I mentioned that people likely wouldn't give these things out for free you commented "This is not exactly what I expected but thanks anyway - I still believe in people good heart and will." Which is hard to interpret other than that you expect others to give you what you want for free.> Believe there is a few topics that > I know much better than You and if You asked for help I would help You > within some limits.Sure. If you're the least like me, that limit does not even remotely approach giving away code that does useful stuff. You might give away crude code sketches, but not the truly useful goodies.> There is such Japanese saying that "Only stupid do not ask..."Maybe. But only the stupid refuse to pay attention to the answers they get. Rune
Deczky all-pass filter design Matlab
Started by ●February 6, 2009
Reply by ●March 20, 20092009-03-20
Reply by ●March 20, 20092009-03-20
On Feb 6, 4:42 pm, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote:> Rune Allnor wrote: > > I don't know the filter other than what I found here: > > >http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel2/640/5939/002305... > > Unfortunately, thats locked behind the IEEE knowledge firewall. > > ErikThe IEEE knowledge firewall is a lot like the gates at Disneyland. A lot of people want to go there. Some of what's there may be personally amusing to you. It's easy to find out what's there to see if it is interesting to you. You need to pay for your ticket to get in. Annual passes are available. Dale B. Dalrymple
Reply by ●March 20, 20092009-03-20
On Feb 6, 4:42 pm, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote:> Rune Allnor wrote: > > I don't know the filter other than what I found here: > > >http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel2/640/5939/002305... > > Unfortunately, thats locked behind the IEEE knowledge firewall. > > ErikThe IEEE knowledge firewall is a lot like the gates at Disneyland. A lot of people want to go there. Some of what's there may be personally amusing to you. It's easy to find out what's there to see if it is interesting to you. You need to pay for your ticket to get in. Annual passes are available. Dale B. Dalrymple
Reply by ●March 20, 20092009-03-20
On Feb 6, 4:42 pm, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote:> Rune Allnor wrote: > > I don't know the filter other than what I found here: > > >http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel2/640/5939/002305... > > Unfortunately, thats locked behind the IEEE knowledge firewall. > > ErikThe IEEE knowledge firewall is a lot like the gates at Disneyland. A lot of people want to go there. Some of what's there may be personally amusing to you. It's easy to find out what's there to see if it is interesting to you. You need to pay for your ticket to get in. Annual passes are available. Dale B. Dalrymple
Reply by ●March 21, 20092009-03-21
On Feb 6, 5:47 am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:> On 6 Feb, 13:18, Pawel <prulikow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > Does anyone know Deczky all-pass design algorithm implemented in > > Matlab. > > I don't know the filter other than what I found here: > > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel2/640/5939/002305... > > The general description, which mentions optimzation and > decision criteria, indicates to me that this is a rather > involved algorithm. People who implement such algorithms > tend to do one of two things: > > - Sell their programs for a fee > - Keep their programs to themselves > > Don't expect anybody who have such a program to give it to > you for free. You might want to either find a filter design > package which does these things, or start the work on > implementing these algorithms yourself. > > RuneThe paper Rune references makes reference to Deczky's approach, but presents an alternative. For references to what Deczky wrote see: Equiripple and minimax (Chebyshev) approximations for recursive digital filters Deczky, A. Acoustics, Speech and Signal Processing, IEEE Transactions on Apr 1974, Vol: 22, Issue: 2, page 98- 111 I and Recursive digital filters having equiripple group delay Deczky, A. Circuits and Systems, IEEE Transactions on Jan 1974, Vol: 21 , Issue: 1, page 131 - 134 But the OP also requested Matlab code for Deczky's approach, of which, I am aware of none. People who generate Matlab code and give it away often throw it here: http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/ This would be a more appropriate place to look for free code. Dale B. Dalrymple
Reply by ●March 22, 20092009-03-22
dbd wrote:> On Feb 6, 4:42 pm, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote: >> Rune Allnor wrote: >> > I don't know the filter other than what I found here: >> >> >http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel2/640/5939/002305... >> >> Unfortunately, thats locked behind the IEEE knowledge firewall. >> >> Erik > > The IEEE knowledge firewall is a lot like the gates at Disneyland. A > lot of people want to go there. Some of what's there may be personally > amusing to you. It's easy to find out what's there to see if it is > interesting to you. You need to pay for your ticket to get in. Annual > passes are available.I have voiced my complaints about IEEE and the pricing structure of its papers before: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.dsp/browse_thread/thread/cdae9b1fb99e3e0a/6cdb6db5f834e8c8 I would be happy to pay a fair price, but as far as I am concerned that is not what the IEEE is offering. Quite frankly I see the IEEE as being a fine example of an orgnisation without any market place competition and little accountability. Here are a couple of my objections to the IEEE. I would appeciate it if people could point out any errors I make. - As I understand it authors who have their papers accepted into IEEE journals pay money to help with the publishing. - Paper reviewers and editors provide their services for free. - Univesitiy libraries around the world pay extortionate fees to carry IEEE journals. Now I ask, where does all this money go and wouldn't it be relatively easy to provide the same (or hopefully even better) quality of information for a fraction of the cost? Given the above, why does a IEEE paper downloaded over the internet cost US$13 for IEEE members and US$25 for non-members? Regards, Erik --
Reply by ●March 22, 20092009-03-22
On 22 Mar, 11:44, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote:> dbd wrote: > > On Feb 6, 4:42 pm, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote: > >> Rune Allnor wrote: > >> > I don't know the filter other than what I found here: > > >> >http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel2/640/5939/002305... > > >> Unfortunately, thats locked behind the IEEE knowledge firewall. > > >> Erik > > > The IEEE knowledge firewall is a lot like the gates at Disneyland. A > > lot of people want to go there. Some of what's there may be personally > > amusing to you. It's easy to find out what's there to see if it is > > interesting to you. You need to pay for your ticket to get in. Annual > > passes are available. > > I have voiced my complaints about IEEE and the pricing structure of > its papers before: > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.dsp/browse_thread/thread/cdae9b1f... > > I would be happy �to pay a fair price, but as far as I �am concerned > that is not what the IEEE is offering. Quite frankly I see the IEEE as > being a fine example of an orgnisation without any market place > competition �and little accountability. > > Here are a couple of my objections to the IEEE. I would appeciate it if > people could point out any errors I make. > > � - As I understand it authors who have their papers accepted into IEEE > � � journals pay money to help with the publishing.Yep. But at least here, publishers (or rather, their employers) are awarded government funding on a per publication basis. So if you publish in IEEE, you will get the expenses refimbursed a couple of years down the line.> �- �Paper reviewers and editors provide their services for free.Don't know 'bout that...> �- Univesitiy �libraries around the world pay extortionate fees to carry > � �IEEE journals.I've worked in places where employees took huge personal memberships (subscribed to large numbers of periodicals), got the expenses reimbursed by the employers, and 'donated' the journals to the company library. That might work for printed material, but was no good for online stuff. But of course, if somebody cover download expenses over company accounts, article prices don't matter.> Now I ask, where does all �this money go and wouldn't it be relatively > easy to provide the same (or hopefully even better) quality �of > information for a fraction of the cost? > > Given �the above, why does a IEEE paper downloaded over the internet > cost US$13 for IEEE members and US$25 for non-members?It's not about how useful the organization is, but how useful it is *seen* to be. If it's expensive, it must be good. How many actually *use* the service is of no importance. Rune
Reply by ●March 22, 20092009-03-22
On Mar 22, 3:44 am, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote:> dbd wrote: >... > > > The IEEE knowledge firewall is a lot like the gates at Disneyland. A > > lot of people want to go there. Some of what's there may be personally > > amusing to you. It's easy to find out what's there to see if it is > > interesting to you. You need to pay for your ticket to get in. Annual > > passes are available. > > I have voiced my complaints about IEEE and the pricing structure of > its papers before: > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.dsp/browse_thread/thread/cdae9b1f... >.> I would be happy to pay a fair price, but as far as I am concerned .> that is not what the IEEE is offering. Quite frankly I see the IEEE as .> being a fine example of an orgnisation without any market place .> competition and little accountability. Have you never done Google searches on technical topics? There are commercial publishers who offer to sell their content on your subjects of interest. .> .> Here are a couple of my objections to the IEEE. I would appeciate it if .> people could point out any errors I make.> > - As I understand it authors who have their papers accepted into IEEE > journals pay money to help with the publishing. > > - Paper reviewers and editors provide their services for free. >.> - Univesitiy libraries around the world pay extortionate fees to carry .> IEEE journals. Where is you data? What do they pay and what should it cost to get unlimited access for large numbers of people?> > Now I ask, where does all this money go and wouldn't it be relatively > easy to provide the same (or hopefully even better) quality of > information for a fraction of the cost?What do you think it would cost to acquire several hundred thousand articles and maintain search function and adequate secure access bandwidth to them in a reliable (in the multi-decade sense)? What would the size of the staff be? If it's cheap, here is a business opportunity for you and everyone else. Where are the takers?>.> Given the above, why does a IEEE paper downloaded over the internet .> cost US$13 for IEEE members and US$25 for non-members? Disneyland costs $59 for a day and a few hundred dollars for an annual pass. For a few hundred dollars you can get annual unlimited personal access to a significant portion of the IEEE content.> Regards, > ErikWhat do you think it would actually cost? If you think there is a point here, what are -your- numbers? Don't expect anyone here to do your homework for you. Dale B. Dalrymple
Reply by ●March 22, 20092009-03-22
On Mar 22, 3:44 am, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote:> dbd wrote: >... > > > The IEEE knowledge firewall is a lot like the gates at Disneyland. A > > lot of people want to go there. Some of what's there may be personally > > amusing to you. It's easy to find out what's there to see if it is > > interesting to you. You need to pay for your ticket to get in. Annual > > passes are available. > > I have voiced my complaints about IEEE and the pricing structure of > its papers before: > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.dsp/browse_thread/thread/cdae9b1f... >.> I would be happy to pay a fair price, but as far as I am concerned .> that is not what the IEEE is offering. Quite frankly I see the IEEE as .> being a fine example of an orgnisation without any market place .> competition and little accountability. Have you never done Google searches on technical topics? There are commercial publishers who offer to sell their content on your subjects of interest. .> .> Here are a couple of my objections to the IEEE. I would appeciate it if .> people could point out any errors I make.> > - As I understand it authors who have their papers accepted into IEEE > journals pay money to help with the publishing. > > - Paper reviewers and editors provide their services for free. >.> - Univesitiy libraries around the world pay extortionate fees to carry .> IEEE journals. Where is you data? What do they pay and what should it cost to get unlimited access for large numbers of people?> > Now I ask, where does all this money go and wouldn't it be relatively > easy to provide the same (or hopefully even better) quality of > information for a fraction of the cost?What do you think it would cost to acquire several hundred thousand articles and maintain search function and adequate secure access bandwidth to them in a reliable (in the multi-decade sense)? What would the size of the staff be? If it's cheap, here is a business opportunity for you and everyone else. Where are the takers?>.> Given the above, why does a IEEE paper downloaded over the internet .> cost US$13 for IEEE members and US$25 for non-members? Disneyland costs $59 for a day and a few hundred dollars for an annual pass. For a few hundred dollars you can get annual unlimited personal access to a significant portion of the IEEE content.> Regards, > ErikWhat do you think it would actually cost? If you think there is a point here, what are -your- numbers? Don't expect anyone here to do your homework for you. Dale B. Dalrymple
Reply by ●March 22, 20092009-03-22
On Mar 22, 3:44 am, Erik de Castro Lopo <nos...@mega-nerd.com> wrote:> dbd wrote: >... > > > The IEEE knowledge firewall is a lot like the gates at Disneyland. A > > lot of people want to go there. Some of what's there may be personally > > amusing to you. It's easy to find out what's there to see if it is > > interesting to you. You need to pay for your ticket to get in. Annual > > passes are available. > > I have voiced my complaints about IEEE and the pricing structure of > its papers before: > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.dsp/browse_thread/thread/cdae9b1f... >.> I would be happy to pay a fair price, but as far as I am concerned .> that is not what the IEEE is offering. Quite frankly I see the IEEE as .> being a fine example of an orgnisation without any market place .> competition and little accountability. Have you never done Google searches on technical topics? There are commercial publishers who offer to sell their content on your subjects of interest. .> .> Here are a couple of my objections to the IEEE. I would appeciate it if .> people could point out any errors I make.> > - As I understand it authors who have their papers accepted into IEEE > journals pay money to help with the publishing. > > - Paper reviewers and editors provide their services for free. >.> - Univesitiy libraries around the world pay extortionate fees to carry .> IEEE journals. Where is you data? What do they pay and what should it cost to get unlimited access for large numbers of people?> > Now I ask, where does all this money go and wouldn't it be relatively > easy to provide the same (or hopefully even better) quality of > information for a fraction of the cost?What do you think it would cost to acquire several hundred thousand articles and maintain search function and adequate secure access bandwidth to them in a reliable (in the multi-decade sense)? What would the size of the staff be? If it's cheap, here is a business opportunity for you and everyone else. Where are the takers?>.> Given the above, why does a IEEE paper downloaded over the internet .> cost US$13 for IEEE members and US$25 for non-members? Disneyland costs $59 for a day and a few hundred dollars for an annual pass. For a few hundred dollars you can get annual unlimited personal access to a significant portion of the IEEE content.> Regards, > ErikWhat do you think it would actually cost? If you think there is a point here, what are -your- numbers? Don't expect anyone here to do your homework for you. Dale B. Dalrymple
