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Lossy &/or low data rate speech compression question [VERY L-O--N----G preambele ;]

Started by Richard Owlett March 10, 2004
Martin Blume wrote:
> "Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> schrieb > >>>> Free ( as in either beer or speech ) presumes Linux and a C >>>> compiler. I have neither. Learning curves not worthwhile. >[snip] > >>Seriously most of the "free" stuff seems to be being developed >>under *nix. ... > > If there is really that much "free" stuff under *nix around, > you might want to consider Linux.
Actually the two packages I'd most likely try were developed under Linux and a GNU C compiler.
> It's easy. Get a CD-ROM > distribution (such as e.g. Knoppix, at www.knoppix.org) to try > it out.
The reviews of Linux seem to be either enthusiastically pro or con. Little middle ground. The saner negative reviews seem to consistently mention spotty periphial support. I know of no geographically local Linux support.
>Often they're also available at newsstands.
*NEWSSTANDS?* You have newsstands? Until you mentioned them I hadn't really realized that I hadn't seen one since I moved here 13 years ago. Hey Springfield is only Missouri's 3rd largest city. When I said "Major issues for a 150 mile radius have been effluent ( solid, liquid AND gaseous ) of cattle, hogs, and chickens ;/", I was serious.
> There's no installation on harddisk involved, if you don't want to, > so you don't mess up your XP.
If its as failsafe as you imply, I may try it.
"Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> schrieb
> Actually the two packages I'd most likely try were developed > under Linux and a GNU C compiler. >
Do you have the names of these packages?
> > > It's easy. Get a CD-ROM > > distribution (such as e.g. Knoppix, at www.knoppix.org) to try > > it out. > > The reviews of Linux seem to be either enthusiastically pro or > con. Little middle ground. The saner negative reviews seem to > consistently mention spotty periphial support.
Peripheral support has got quite good lately. If your equipment is neither: - too exotic - too young - too old - too Windows-centric (WinModems, GDI printers) it is likely to be supported.
> I know of no geographically local Linux support.
Too bad. But there is a pletora of *.linux.* groups, usually helpful (I try to be one of the helpful hands).
> > >Often they're also available at newsstands. > > *NEWSSTANDS?* You have newsstands?
I didn't know Europe is that lucky.
> > There's no installation on harddisk involved, if you don't > > want to, so you don't mess up your XP. > > If its as failsafe as you imply, I may try it.
At least for the CD-based distros, there can be no harm as long as you don't want to install it on the HDD. But distros have gotten quite at installation and coexistence with Windows. HTH Martin
Martin Blume wrote:

> "Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> schrieb > >>Actually the two packages I'd most likely try were developed >>under Linux and a GNU C compiler. >> > > Do you have the names of these packages?
For speech recognition CMU Sphinx Sphinx Group at Carnegie Mellon University http://fife.speech.cs.cmu.edu/sphinx/ For Text To Speech Festival Speech Synthesis System http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/ [ I was thinking of this as a recognition site. ] The homepage DOES state: "Festival is a general multi-lingual speech synthesis system ... as well an environment for development and research of speech synthesis techniques." ;[ MBROLA: Free Speech Synthesis Project http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola.html Current Work on Linux Accessibility http://www.tracecenter.org/linux/current.html#softsynth FAQ http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/comp.speech/ A Google search at http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Speech_Technology/Linux/ OR a dmoz.org search for your area of interest should prove fruitful. I went the Google route as I half-remembered some key words from personal correspondence. REMEMBER I am interested in topic. That does *NOT MEAN* I've done anything useful ;/
>>>It's easy. Get a CD-ROM >>>distribution (such as e.g. Knoppix, at www.knoppix.org) to try >>>it out. >> >>The reviews of Linux seem to be either enthusiastically pro or >>con. Little middle ground. The saner negative reviews seem to >>consistently mention spotty periphial support. > > Peripheral support has got quite good lately. ...
I probably meet the specs.
>>I know of no geographically local Linux support. > > Too bad. But there is a pletora of *.linux.* groups, usually > helpful (I try to be one of the helpful hands). > > >>>Often they're also available at newsstands. >> >>*NEWSSTANDS?* You have newsstands? > > I didn't know Europe is that lucky.
It's not that Europe is lucky. Europe is small ;) About 40 years ago I got an education. Drove cross the US of A. Thought that when I got to Mississippi River, I'd gone 1/2 way. *ERROR*! I'm in *RURAL* mid-America. [ after working in NYC and Boston ] [ Can you spell "culture shock" ?]
>>>There's no installation on harddisk involved, if you don't >>>want to, so you don't mess up your XP. >> >>If its as failsafe as you imply, I may try it. > > At least for the CD-based distros, there can be no harm as long > as you don't want to install it on the HDD. But distros have > gotten quite at installation and coexistence with Windows. > > HTH > Martin
"Richard Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> schrieb
> For Text To Speech > Festival Speech Synthesis System > http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/ >
There was / is a Knoppix DVD on which this package is included. That might be helpful for you. For the other packages or if you're taking a live-CD, you might end up having to compile these packages yourself. While not difficult ($ ./configure; make) and usually without a problem, you might end up with more work than you hoped for.
> > I'm in *RURAL* mid-America. >
Yes, in America *RURAL* is really *RURAL*. In Europe, you're almost always close to a bigger city (at least in Central Europe). Good luck on your explorations of speech processing! Martin
Martin Blume wrote:


> There was / is a Knoppix DVD on which this package is included. > That might be helpful for you. For the other packages or if you're > taking a live-CD, you might end up having to compile these > packages yourself. While not difficult ($ ./configure; make) > and usually without a problem, you might end up with more work > than you hoped for.
I have what is probably the stupidest problem ever with Knoppix: I can't get at the BIOS of mt hp Pavilion. If there's a key or key combination to press, I don't know it. The machine boots from a cold start to an hp splash screen. Nothing shows during POST (if there is a POST). Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;
"Jerry Avins" <jya@ieee.org> schrieb
> > I have what is probably the stupidest problem ever with Knoppix: > I can't get at the BIOS of mt hp Pavilion. If there's a key or > key combination to press, I don't know it.
Goooooooooooooooogle "hp pavilion bios key" tells me:
> To enter the BIOS, turn on the computer and when the first logo
screen appears, press the F1 key
> repeatedly until a BIOS Setup screen opens.
HTH. YMMV. Martin
Martin Blume wrote:

> "Jerry Avins" <jya@ieee.org> schrieb > >>I have what is probably the stupidest problem ever with Knoppix: >>I can't get at the BIOS of mt hp Pavilion. If there's a key or >>key combination to press, I don't know it. > > > Goooooooooooooooogle "hp pavilion bios key" tells me: > >>To enter the BIOS, turn on the computer and when the first logo > > screen appears, press the F1 key > > >>repeatedly until a BIOS Setup screen opens. > > > > > HTH. YMMV. > > Martin
Thanks, Martin. I learn once again that apparently stupid problems are in fact stupid approaches to solving them. F1. I'll be hornswoggled! Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;
"Jerry Avins" <jya@ieee.org> schrieb
> > Thanks, Martin. I learn once again that apparently stupid > problems are in fact stupid approaches to solving them. >
The trick is not so much knowing the answer, but asking the right question. I'm glad I could be of help. Martin