hi, I would like some clarification on Smith's description on p. 544. The material is discussed between p. 537 - p. 544 Specifically, the regions of convergence, or value boundedness, or no-convergence in the s-place. Q: On the surface, it looks fine. However, the details of the specific descriptions of the pole/zero a-e fig 30-4 appear to me confusing (as far as I can understand the material ). It appears the LHS and RHS descriptions are reversed again based on the text. For example, Smith says there is not a stable system in the RHS !! Perhaps someone could clarify the poles/zero a-e description ?? background: I see he uses a sigma that is substituted into exp(sigma) rather than exp(- (sigma) ). This results in the exponential growth on the LHS of the complex chart. Another EE. circuits text shows the exponential growth on the RHS. Of course the e-decay is on the other side. I can accept this. However, the example description on p.544 which uses fig 30-4 is confusing. The book error list shows nothing on this. This book is extememely helpful to my learning DSP, and has inspired me to revisit a quite old EE circuit text by Huelsman, which again, as far as my understanding, appears at odds. I'd prefer the clarification to be directly on the Smith content. thanks, Walt.....
s-plane; Laplace; Smith book
Started by ●October 31, 2009
Reply by ●November 4, 20092009-11-04
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:53:48 -0500, "waltech" <waltechmail@yahoo.com> wrote:>hi, > >I would like some clarification on Smith's description >on p. 544. The material is discussed between p. 537 - p. 544 >Specifically, the regions of convergence, or value boundedness, or >no-convergence in the s-place. > >Q: >On the surface, it looks fine. However, the details of the specific >descriptions of the pole/zero a-e fig 30-4 appear to me confusing >(as far as I can understand the material ). It appears the LHS >and RHS descriptions are reversed again based on the text. >For example, Smith says there is not a stable system in the RHS !! >Perhaps someone could clarify the poles/zero a-e description ??[Snipped by Lyons] Hello Walt, I'll bet someone here can help you. But we'll need to know: * Which Smith book (exact title & publisher) you're reading. * Which Edition of that book. * Which printing number. * Exactly which lines, on which pages, did you find the statement that "there is not a stable system in the RHS"? I, for one, don't know what those words mean. Anyway, Regards, [-Rick-]>background: >I see he uses a sigma that is substituted >into exp(sigma) rather than exp(- (sigma) ). >This results in the exponential growth on the LHS of the >complex chart. Another EE. circuits text shows the exponential >growth on the RHS. Of course the e-decay is on the other side. > >I can accept this. > >However, the example description on p.544 which uses fig 30-4 is >confusing. The book error list shows nothing on this. > >This book is extememely helpful to my learning DSP, >and has inspired me to revisit a quite old EE circuit text >by Huelsman, which again, as far as my understanding, appears >at odds. I'd prefer the clarification to be directly on the Smith >content. > >thanks, > > >Walt.....
Reply by ●November 4, 20092009-11-04
Rick Lyons wrote: ...> Hello Walt, > I'll bet someone here can help you. > But we'll need to know: > > * Which Smith book (exact title & publisher) you're reading. > * Which Edition of that book. > * Which printing number. > * Exactly which lines, on which pages, did you find the > statement that "there is not a stable system in the RHS"? > I, for one, don't know what those words mean.The book "Scientist and Engineers' Guide ..." is on line at http://dspguide.com. If that is the book under discussion, then the URL of the specific chapter should put everyone on the same page, as it were. ... Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●November 5, 20092009-11-05
hi Rick and Jerry, forgot to mention: the Book is first edition, hardback, and is identical to the online version. "The Scientist and Engineer's guide to Digital Signal Processing". California Technical Publishing". I did a reply to your emails using the http://dsprelated website submittal as "reply to group ". The form was initially blank so I dont know if the reply will reach the newsgroup properly. I did another reply to, and the right prior text is in the form. (this form ). In an hour, I'll know if the submittal is good. thanks, Walt .........>hi, > >I would like some clarification on Smith's description >on p. 544. The material is discussed between p. 537 - p. 544 >Specifically, the regions of convergence, or value boundedness, or >no-convergence in the s-place. >[remainder cut ]
Reply by ●November 5, 20092009-11-05
waltech wrote:> hi Rick and Jerry, > > forgot to mention: > the Book is first edition, hardback, and is identical to the > online version.Can't be. The on-line version has at least been augmented with material from the second edition.> "The Scientist and Engineer's guide to Digital Signal Processing". > California Technical Publishing".... Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������