Hi all, I am a communications engineer with both a good background in DSP, FPGA and implementations of algorithms. I am looking for a good book on software radio architectures and implementations. Can someone please suggest a title or two? I would be grateful. Thanks very much, Regards, Joseph
Book on software radio
Started by ●November 30, 2009
Reply by ●November 30, 20092009-11-30
jozamm wrote:> Hi all, > > I am a communications engineer with both a good background in DSP, > FPGA and implementations of algorithms. I am looking for a good book > on software radio architectures and implementations. Can someone > please suggest a title or two? I would be grateful.Marvin Frerking "Digital Signal Processing in Communication Systems" Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant http://www.abvolt.com
Reply by ●November 30, 20092009-11-30
jozamm <jozamm@gmail.com> writes:> on software radio architectures and implementations. Can someone > please suggest a title or two? I would be grateful.Not a book, but why not take a look at an actual implementation? http://gnuradio.org/trac Petter -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Reply by ●December 1, 20092009-12-01
Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:> > > jozamm wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am a communications engineer with both a good background in DSP, >> FPGA and implementations of algorithms. I am looking for a good book >> on software radio architectures and implementations. Can someone >> please suggest a title or two? I would be grateful. > > Marvin Frerking "Digital Signal Processing in Communication Systems"I agree. As it turns out, I used to work with Marv (a little) at Rockwell-Collins. Although his book is not as polished as most DSP books, it's extremely good in its way. It summarizes a lot of what the people at Collins figured out over the years about how to implement communications radios in DSP, so it contains several useful tidbits that are hard to find elsewhere. For example, I don't remember seeing information on how to demodulate SSB anywhere else; although that's undoubtedly covered elsewhere, you won't find it in any of the general DSP books. (Oppenheimer and Schafer eat your hearts out.) Marv wrote the book just at the time he was retiring, and I think it may have been a bit of a swan song for him; perhaps he was trying to capture the knowledge that soon he would no longer need. Unfortunately, the book never sold well and was only in print for a brief time. But it's one of the ones I turn to frequently. Grant -- _____________________________________________________________________ Grant R. Griffin Publisher of dspGuru http://www.dspguru.com Iowegian International Corporation http://www.iowegian.com See http://www.iowegian.com/img/contact.gif for e-mail address
Reply by ●December 1, 20092009-12-01
On Dec 1, 5:48�am, Grant Griffin <nob...@example.com> wrote:> Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > > > jozamm wrote: > >> Hi all, > > >> I am a communications engineer with both a good background in DSP, > >> FPGA and implementations of algorithms. �I am looking for a good book > >> on software radio architectures and implementations. �Can someone > >> please suggest a title or two? I would be grateful. > > > Marvin Frerking �"Digital Signal Processing in Communication Systems" > > I agree. �As it turns out, I used to work with Marv (a little) at > Rockwell-Collins. �Although his book is not as polished as most DSP > books, it's extremely good in its way. �It summarizes a lot of what the > people at Collins figured out over the years about how to implement > communications radios in DSP, so it contains several useful tidbits that > are hard to find elsewhere. �For example, I don't remember seeing > information on how to demodulate SSB anywhere else; although that's > undoubtedly covered elsewhere, you won't find it in any of the general > DSP books. �(Oppenheimer and Schafer eat your hearts out.) > > Marv wrote the book just at the time he was retiring, and I think it may > have been a bit of a swan song for him; perhaps he was trying to capture > the knowledge that soon he would no longer need. �Unfortunately, the > book never sold well and was only in print for a brief time. �But it's > one of the ones I turn to frequently. > > Grant > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Grant R. Griffin > Publisher of dspGuru � � � � � � � � � � � � �http://www.dspguru.com > Iowegian International Corporation � � � � � �http://www.iowegian.com > Seehttp://www.iowegian.com/img/contact.giffor e-mail addressHi, Thanks very much for your help. I will certainly look into the book. As for gnuradio I have already checked it out but i am interested in building my own hardware step by step. Regards, Joseph A. Zammit
Reply by ●December 1, 20092009-12-01
On Nov 30, 11:48�pm, Grant Griffin <nob...@example.com> wrote:> Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > > > jozamm wrote: > >> Hi all, > > >> I am a communications engineer with both a good background in DSP, > >> FPGA and implementations of algorithms. �I am looking for a good book > >> on software radio architectures and implementations. �Can someone > >> please suggest a title or two? I would be grateful. > > > Marvin Frerking �"Digital Signal Processing in Communication Systems" > > I agree. �As it turns out, I used to work with Marv (a little) at > Rockwell-Collins. �Although his book is not as polished as most DSP > books, it's extremely good in its way. �It summarizes a lot of what the > people at Collins figured out over the years about how to implement > communications radios in DSP, so it contains several useful tidbits that > are hard to find elsewhere. �For example, I don't remember seeing > information on how to demodulate SSB anywhere else; although that's > undoubtedly covered elsewhere, you won't find it in any of the general > DSP books. �(Oppenheimer and Schafer eat your hearts out.) > > Marv wrote the book just at the time he was retiring, and I think it may > have been a bit of a swan song for him; perhaps he was trying to capture > the knowledge that soon he would no longer need. �Unfortunately, the > book never sold well and was only in print for a brief time. �But it's > one of the ones I turn to frequently. > > Grant > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Grant R. Griffin > Publisher of dspGuru � � � � � � � � � � � � �http://www.dspguru.com > Iowegian International Corporation � � � � � �http://www.iowegian.com > Seehttp://www.iowegian.com/img/contact.giffor e-mail addressHey Grant, great to see you posting here again - its been awhile. I second Grant's and Vlad's opinion on the book. Back when I was working on DSP based radios, I referred to that book a lot. It was quite helpful. A lot of stuff you will have to work out for yourself, since most practical solutions will involve a mix of hardware doing some of the up front work and the letting software handle the reconfigurable or difficult to achieve in hardward parts. The idea of putting an A/D on an antenna and then throwing a lot of compute power at the data generally won't quite work. Software radios are defn. fun to work on and there are a lot of opportunities for design improvements. Besides the Frerking book, you will need to look through articles. If you are not an IEEE IExplore subscriber, find a local university that is and use their library to research. Many of the tricks presented in Lyons' column "Tips and Tricks" are useful in radio designs. Clay
Reply by ●December 1, 20092009-12-01
"jozamm" <jozamm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2a660a92-a20b-4090-9d4c-a64ec14309f2@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On Dec 1, 5:48 am, Grant Griffin <nob...@example.com> wrote:> As for gnuradio I have already checked it out but i am interested in > building my own hardware step by step.A perfectly good way to start is to use your PC's audio input to digitize your samples. You can get away with some incredibly simple hardware if you go this route, e.g., http://www.amqrp.org/kits/softrock40/ . The Softrock guys have their own web page dedicated to learning about SDRs: http://www.softrockradio.org/softrock/how-does-it-works . There's also no shame in taking the IF output of your favorite radio and processing it from there -- that way you avoid having to worry about all the "analog stuff" between the antenna and the first IF. ---Joel
Reply by ●December 2, 20092009-12-02
On Nov 30, 6:26�am, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:> jozamm wrote: > > Hi all, > > > I am a communications engineer with both a good background in DSP, > > FPGA and implementations of algorithms. �I am looking for a good book > > on software radio architectures and implementations. �Can someone > > please suggest a title or two? I would be grateful. > > Marvin Frerking �"Digital Signal Processing in Communication Systems" > > Vladimir Vassilevsky > DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultanthttp://www.abvolt.comVery interesting. His book on crystal oscillators was pretty good. Freking is a unique enough name that it's easy to remember.
Reply by ●December 5, 20092009-12-05
Clay wrote: ...> > Hey Grant, great to see you posting here again - its been awhile. >... Thanks, Clay! It's great to see that you and my old friends like Al, Eric, Erik, Fred, Jerry, Phil, Randy, Rick, and Robert (in alphabetical order) are still active here. I'm sure I've forgotten some - sorry. It's probably been about nine years since I've posted regularly (_too_ regularly <wink>). It's hard to believe it's been that long ago. I think at least Eric, Jerry, and Robert pre-date me by quite a bit, so they've been doing this for many, many years. Maybe you, too - I'm not sure. Anyway, keep up the good work! Also, I hope to attend upcoming the comp.dsp conference so I might finally get a chance to meet some of you. Grant -- _____________________________________________________________________ Grant R. Griffin Publisher of dspGuru http://www.dspguru.com Iowegian International Corporation http://www.iowegian.com See http://www.iowegian.com/img/contact.gif for e-mail address
Reply by ●December 7, 20092009-12-07
On Dec 2, 2:23�am, "m...@sushi.com" <m...@sushi.com> wrote:> On Nov 30, 6:26�am, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote: > > > jozamm wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I am a communications engineer with both a good background in DSP, > > > FPGA and implementations of algorithms. �I am looking for a good book > > > on software radio architectures and implementations. �Can someone > > > please suggest a title or two? I would be grateful. > > > Marvin Frerking �"Digital Signal Processing in Communication Systems" > > > Vladimir Vassilevsky > > DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultanthttp://www.abvolt.com > > Very interesting. His book on crystal oscillators was pretty good. > Freking is a unique enough name that it's easy to remember.Aparently you have already forgotten the name. It has another 'r' in it. Frerking. :-) Dirk
