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Started by Ross April 26, 2010
Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:
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>> That sounds right. The modes of many instruments are not exactly >> harmonically related, so harmonic isn't the right word.
> I refer to them as overtones. I too wonder "partial" of what?
According to wikipedia, a well known authoritative source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) "An overtone is any partial except the lowest." It also says: "This can lead to numbering confustion, when comparing overtones to partials; the first overtone is the second partial." It seems to me that this does not follow the EE usage of overtone, specifically in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator there is mention of odd numbered overtones for crystal oscillators, which I believe are odd multiples of the fundamental. By symmetry, even multiples don't generate a piezoelectric voltage. Otherwise, it seems to me that "partial" is similar to the mathematical "component", that is, part of the musical sound. -- glen
glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
> Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote: > (snip) > >>> That sounds right. The modes of many instruments are not exactly >>> harmonically related, so harmonic isn't the right word. > >> I refer to them as overtones. I too wonder "partial" of what? > > According to wikipedia, a well known authoritative source, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) > > "An overtone is any partial except the lowest." > > It also says: "This can lead to numbering confustion, when comparing > overtones to partials; the first overtone is the second partial." > > It seems to me that this does not follow the EE usage of overtone, > specifically in: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator > > there is mention of odd numbered overtones for crystal oscillators, > which I believe are odd multiples of the fundamental. By symmetry, > even multiples don't generate a piezoelectric voltage. > > Otherwise, it seems to me that "partial" is similar to the > mathematical "component", that is, part of the musical sound.
I think that the EE's tracked the usage of the word "harmonic" when they chose "overtone" -- erroneously, if they wanted to match musical usage. -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com