On Nov 27, 6:15�pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:> On Nov 27, 5:39�pm, robert bristow-johnson <r...@audioimagination.com> > wrote: > > > > > the GOP maintains influence among the "less rich" by a few different > > tactics: > > > 1. the poor, particularly the rural poor is less educated than the > > general population. �the GOP takes advantage of that with outright > > lies > >Obama is a muslim, > > �There is more evidence supporting that than not supporting it. > > > a socialist > > He is > > > Kenyan born and constitutionally > > unqualified to be prez) > > No valid BC has been produced yet > > > and with speciously reasoned arguments like > > "trickle-down economics" > > Many economists believe in this idea > > >(or "the illegal aliens are taking our jobs > > going overseas"). > > I would say that the argument against illegal aliens taking jobs is a > Democratic one. �The argument that they suck our welfare system dry > and commit crimes is the Republican one. > > brentWhen did this become a political forum? Do any of your think you are going to either change the other's mind or resolve anything by this discussion? Rick
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Reply by ●November 27, 20102010-11-27
On Nov 27, 7:21�pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Nov 27, 6:15�pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 27, 5:39�pm, robert bristow-johnson <r...@audioimagination.com> > > wrote: > > > > the GOP maintains influence among the "less rich" by a few different > > > tactics: > > > > 1. the poor, particularly the rural poor is less educated than the > > > general population. �the GOP takes advantage of that with outright > > > lies > > >Obama is a muslim, > > > �There is more evidence supporting that than not supporting it. > > > > a socialist > > > He is > > > > Kenyan born and constitutionally > > > unqualified to be prez) > > > No valid BC has been produced yet > > > > and with speciously reasoned arguments like > > > "trickle-down economics" > > > Many economists believe in this idea > > > >(or "the illegal aliens are taking our jobs > > > going overseas"). > > > I would say that the argument against illegal aliens taking jobs is a > > Democratic one. �The argument that they suck our welfare system dry > > and commit crimes is the Republican one. > > > brent > > When did this become a political forum? �Do any of your think you are > going to either change the other's mind or resolve anything by this > discussion? > > RickYou contribute 4 full paragraphs of pontification earlier in this thread and then try to chide me for my comparatively small amount of comment here?
Reply by ●November 27, 20102010-11-27
On Nov 27, 12:36�pm, Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> wrote:> Randy Yates <ya...@ieee.org> writes: > > Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> writes: > >> [...] > >> Question: �"What's the saddest sight in the world?" > > >> Answer: A bus-load of Senators flying over the edge > >> � � � � of a cliff, and there's one empty seat. > > > Ha ha. As long as Pelosi was on it, I'd wouldn't lose too much sleep. > > Yeah, ok she's house. My bad. > -- > Randy Yates � � � � � � � � � � �% "And all that I can do > Digital Signal Labs � � � � � � �% �is say I'm sorry, > mailto://ya...@ieee.org � � � � �% �that's the way it goes..."http://www.digitalsignallabs.com% Getting To The Point', *Balance of Power*, ELOStill, it was a nice thought. Dirk
Reply by ●November 27, 20102010-11-27
On Nov 27, 7:21�pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:> > When did this become a political forum? �Do any of your think you are > going to either change the other's mind or resolve anything by this > discussion?once in a while, just to add to the porn spam, i like to leave little puddles of commie/pinko spittle. sometimes to vent (there are many more occasions for that) and sometimes to celebrate (as in this case and on 01/20/09). not all the news is bad. but most of it is. r b-j
Reply by ●November 29, 20102010-11-29
On Nov 27, 7:48�pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:> On Nov 27, 7:21�pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 27, 6:15�pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > On Nov 27, 5:39�pm, robert bristow-johnson <r...@audioimagination.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > the GOP maintains influence among the "less rich" by a few different > > > > tactics: > > > > > 1. the poor, particularly the rural poor is less educated than the > > > > general population. �the GOP takes advantage of that with outright > > > > lies > > > >Obama is a muslim, > > > > �There is more evidence supporting that than not supporting it. > > > > > a socialist > > > > He is > > > > > Kenyan born and constitutionally > > > > unqualified to be prez) > > > > No valid BC has been produced yet > > > > > and with speciously reasoned arguments like > > > > "trickle-down economics" > > > > Many economists believe in this idea > > > > >(or "the illegal aliens are taking our jobs > > > > going overseas"). > > > > I would say that the argument against illegal aliens taking jobs is a > > > Democratic one. �The argument that they suck our welfare system dry > > > and commit crimes is the Republican one. > > > > brent > > > When did this become a political forum? �Do any of your think you are > > going to either change the other's mind or resolve anything by this > > discussion? > > > Rick > > You contribute 4 full paragraphs of pontification earlier in this > thread and then try to chide me for my comparatively small amount of > comment here?I didn't address my post to you specifically. rick
Reply by ●November 29, 20102010-11-29
On Nov 28, 11:36�pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Nov 27, 7:48�pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 27, 7:21�pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Nov 27, 6:15�pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 27, 5:39�pm, robert bristow-johnson <r...@audioimagination.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > the GOP maintains influence among the "less rich" by a few different > > > > > tactics: > > > > > > 1. the poor, particularly the rural poor is less educated than the > > > > > general population. �the GOP takes advantage of that with outright > > > > > lies > > > > >Obama is a muslim, > > > > > �There is more evidence supporting that than not supporting it. > > > > > > a socialist > > > > > He is > > > > > > Kenyan born and constitutionally > > > > > unqualified to be prez) > > > > > No valid BC has been produced yet > > > > > > and with speciously reasoned arguments like > > > > > "trickle-down economics" > > > > > Many economists believe in this idea > > > > > >(or "the illegal aliens are taking our jobs > > > > > going overseas"). > > > > > I would say that the argument against illegal aliens taking jobs is a > > > > Democratic one. �The argument that they suck our welfare system dry > > > > and commit crimes is the Republican one. > > > > > brent > > > > When did this become a political forum? �Do any of your think you are > > > going to either change the other's mind or resolve anything by this > > > discussion? > > > > Rick > > > You contribute 4 full paragraphs of pontification earlier in this > > thread and then try to chide me for my comparatively small amount of > > comment here? > > I didn't address my post to you specifically. > > rickIt would have been clearer then if you had responded to your original 4 paragraph off topic bloviation instead of me :-P
Reply by ●November 29, 20102010-11-29
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:25:58 -0800 (PST), rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:>I have mellowed a little in my old age. I no longer think that >politicians are the cause of our problems. They are only a symptom. >Let's face it, in a democracy politicians only have as much power as >we hand to them. We elect them, we fail to monitor them and then we >toss them out only when times are bad regardless of whether they had >anything to do with causing the bad times. > >The reason we have an electoral college to select our President is >because the founding fathers could not agree that people at large were >capable of running their own government. Some of them didn't believe >we should have an elected government at all and wanted to make George >Washington the King of the new country. I'm not sure they were far >wrong. Most elections in this country are a popularity contest, not >too different than running for class president in high school. > >So don't blame a pig for having a shorter neck than a giraffe! We >make politicians the way they are by responding to their negative >campaigning, listening to their BS rhetoric and swallowing the hook, >line and sinker of their election promises even when we ***know*** >they are lying to us. > >"We have met the enemy and he is us" > >Regretfully, Rick > >PS I would say the national elections in the US are a feedback loop >with an adequate time delay to cause unstable oscillations with a >period of roughly 7 years. What sort of filter is needed in the loop >to stabilize it? How does this theory explain the recent election >results? Can Chaos Theory be applied to understand and prevent these >oscillations? McLaughlin says, "No, politics is beyond Chaos Theory >and can not be controlled! Like the stock market, the act of >understanding it adds a new dimension that further complicates it."Hi Rick, I think I agree with all that you've written. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was Winston Churchill who said, "The strongest argument against democracy as a form of government is to spend five minutes talking to the average voter." See Ya', [-Rick Lyons-]
Reply by ●December 1, 20102010-12-01
On Nov 29, 12:34=A0pm, Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote:> On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:25:58 -0800 (PST), rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > >I have mellowed a little in my old age. =A0I no longer think that > >politicians are the cause of our problems. =A0They are only a symptom. > >Let's face it, in a democracy politicians only have as much power as > >we hand to them. =A0We elect them, we fail to monitor them and then we > >toss them out only when times are bad regardless of whether they had > >anything to do with causing the bad times. > > >The reason we have an electoral college to select our President is > >because the founding fathers could not agree that people at large were > >capable of running their own government. =A0Some of them didn't believe > >we should have an elected government at all and wanted to make George > >Washington the King of the new country. =A0I'm not sure they were far > >wrong. =A0Most elections in this country are a popularity contest, not > >too different than running for class president in high school. > > >So don't blame a pig for having a shorter neck than a giraffe! =A0We > >make politicians the way they are by responding to their negative > >campaigning, listening to their BS rhetoric and swallowing the hook, > >line and sinker of their election promises even when we ***know*** > >they are lying to us. > > >"We have met the enemy and he is us" > > >Regretfully, Rick > > >PS I would say the national elections in the US are a feedback loop > >with an adequate time delay to cause unstable oscillations with a > >period of roughly 7 years. =A0What sort of filter is needed in the loop > >to stabilize it? =A0How does this theory explain the recent election > >results? =A0Can Chaos Theory be applied to understand and prevent these > >oscillations? =A0McLaughlin says, "No, politics is beyond Chaos Theory > >and can not be controlled! =A0Like the stock market, the act of > >understanding it adds a new dimension that further complicates it." > > Hi Rick, > =A0 I think I agree with all that you've written. > > If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was Winston > Churchill who said, "The strongest argument against > democracy as a form of government is to spend five > minutes talking to the average voter." > > See Ya', > [-Rick Lyons-]Not that it matters much. Let's face it, the only thing between democracy and mob rule is the military. Otherwise it can be indistinguishable. Rick
