On Jul 21, 4:52�am, Rob Doyle <radioe...@gmail.com> wrote:> On 7/20/2011 3:57 PM, Rick Lyons wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:48:37 GMT, eric.jacob...@ieee.org (Eric > > Jacobsen) wrote: > > >> On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Avins<j...@ieee.org> > >> wrote: > > >>> Hooray for the Flying Spaghetti Monster! > >>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523 > > >> I wonder if he had that seive custom-made. � His fits a lot better > >> than mine. > > >> Eric Jacobsen > > > Hi Eric, > > � �I wear my pasta strainer to protect myself > > from the damage caused by sun spot activity. > > It's worked very well for years. > > > [-Rick-] > > It is definitely fits better than the aluminum foil pyramid > that I used to keep aliens from probing my mind - it also > covers more of the noggin. �I wonder which has better shielding > properties at mind-reading frequencies. > > I suppose that will take a 3D finite element analysis. > > Thank goodness for Admiral Faraday or who knows what I'd be > thinking.Admiral Faraday is one of my heroes. His famous line was "Damn the tornadoes! Cover your head!" Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Reply by ●July 21, 20112011-07-21
Reply by ●July 22, 20112011-07-22
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:20:55 -0500, Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> wrote:>Rick Lyons wrote:[Snipped by Lyons]>> >> Hi Eric, >> I wear my pasta strainer to protect myself >> from the damage caused by sun spot activity. >> It's worked very well for years. >> >> [-Rick-] >> > > >And your definitive proof is ? ??????Hi Richard, Well, ... when I'm wearin' the strainer, I no longer hear the voices. [-Rick-]
Reply by ●July 23, 20112011-07-23
On Jul 22, 3:11�pm, Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote:> � �Well, ... when I'm wearin' the strainer, > I no longer hear the voices.And it has the added bonus of acting like a tinfoil hat to keep those space rays from spyin'! Ciao, Peter K.
Reply by ●July 25, 20112011-07-25
On Jul 14, 5:46=A0am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:> Hooray for the Flying Spaghetti Monster!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-e=urope-14135523 Better that than a "Christian fundamentalist" freemason with an ambition to instigate another Crusade and general religious wars. Rune
Reply by ●July 25, 20112011-07-25
On Jul 25, 2:14=A0am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:> On Jul 14, 5:46=A0am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: > > > Hooray for the Flying Spaghetti Monster!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world=-europe-14135523> > Better that than a "Christian fundamentalist" freemason > with an ambition to instigate another Crusade and > general religious wars. > > RuneHe seems to be more of a self proclaimed Darwinist. Freemasonry and fundamental Christianity are mutually exclusive (fundamental Christianity as defined in the USA is a conservative christian who believes in the inerency of the bible the virgin birth, the resurrection, etc. he does not appear to believe literally in this stuff). He is sympathetic with the Christian culture of Europe but but seems to be a far cry from being a Christian.
Reply by ●July 25, 20112011-07-25
On Jul 25, 12:59=A0pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:> On Jul 25, 2:14=A0am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote: > > > On Jul 14, 5:46=A0am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: > > > > Hooray for the Flying Spaghetti Monster!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor=ld-europe-14135523> > > Better that than a "Christian fundamentalist" freemason > > with an ambition to instigate another Crusade and > > general religious wars. > > > Rune > > He seems to be more of a self proclaimed Darwinist. =A0Freemasonry and > fundamental Christianity are mutually exclusive (fundamental > Christianity as defined in the USA is a conservative christian who > believes in the inerency of the bible the virgin birth, the > resurrection, etc. he does not appear to believe =A0literally in this > stuff). =A0He is sympathetic with the Christian culture of Europe but > but seems to be a far cry from being a Christian.It was a police representative that first used the term 'Christian fundamentalist'. It seems the term was used not to describe the opinions as such, but the general state of mind, in the sense 'does not accept any views or opinions different from his own, and is prepared to use any means available to make that point.' I suppose it is a matter of semantics whether this qualifies as 'fundamentalist' or not; it certainly does *not* matter to his hundreds of victims. Rune
Reply by ●July 25, 20112011-07-25
On Jul 25, 7:11=A0am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote:> On Jul 25, 12:59=A0pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 2:14=A0am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote: > > > > On Jul 14, 5:46=A0am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: > > > > > Hooray for the Flying Spaghetti Monster!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/w=orld-europe-14135523> > > > Better that than a "Christian fundamentalist" freemason > > > with an ambition to instigate another Crusade and > > > general religious wars. > > > > Rune > > > He seems to be more of a self proclaimed Darwinist. =A0Freemasonry and > > fundamental Christianity are mutually exclusive (fundamental > > Christianity as defined in the USA is a conservative christian who > > believes in the inerency of the bible the virgin birth, the > > resurrection, etc. he does not appear to believe =A0literally in this > > stuff). =A0He is sympathetic with the Christian culture of Europe but > > but seems to be a far cry from being a Christian. > > It was a police representative that first used the term > 'Christian fundamentalist'. > > It seems the term was used not to describe the opinions > as such, but the general state of mind, in the sense 'does > not accept any views or opinions different from his own, > and is prepared to use any means available to make that > point.' > > I suppose it is a matter of semantics whether this > qualifies as 'fundamentalist' or not; it certainly > does *not* matter to his hundreds of victims. > > RuneNo it does not matter in that sense. I read somewhere that according to Norway law he might only be put in prison for 21 years. Is that true?
Reply by ●July 25, 20112011-07-25
On Jul 25, 1:29=A0pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:> On Jul 25, 7:11=A0am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 12:59=A0pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 25, 2:14=A0am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 14, 5:46=A0am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: > > > > > > Hooray for the Flying Spaghetti Monster!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news=/world-europe-14135523> > > > > Better that than a "Christian fundamentalist" freemason > > > > with an ambition to instigate another Crusade and > > > > general religious wars. > > > > > Rune > > > > He seems to be more of a self proclaimed Darwinist. =A0Freemasonry an=d> > > fundamental Christianity are mutually exclusive (fundamental > > > Christianity as defined in the USA is a conservative christian who > > > believes in the inerency of the bible the virgin birth, the > > > resurrection, etc. he does not appear to believe =A0literally in this > > > stuff). =A0He is sympathetic with the Christian culture of Europe but > > > but seems to be a far cry from being a Christian. > > > It was a police representative that first used the term > > 'Christian fundamentalist'. > > > It seems the term was used not to describe the opinions > > as such, but the general state of mind, in the sense 'does > > not accept any views or opinions different from his own, > > and is prepared to use any means available to make that > > point.' > > > I suppose it is a matter of semantics whether this > > qualifies as 'fundamentalist' or not; it certainly > > does *not* matter to his hundreds of victims. > > > Rune > > No it does not matter in that sense. =A0I read somewhere that according > to Norway law he might only be put in prison for 21 years. =A0Is that > true?Yes, that's the maximum *prison* penalty. Minus 30% for served time, or whatever - very, very few people serve the full time. However, in recent years 'forvaring', a 'confinement' or 'containment' type of penalty, has been introduced. I don't know exactly what this is, but my impression is that this is a kind of prison term that is subjected to different legal constraints that 'mere' prison. With a prison sentence your legal rights are well-defined, and you are subjected to various evaluations etc at set times. And you know the maximum time of your sentence. With 'forvaring' all of that seems to become quite blury. As I understand it, a 'forvaring' sentence is first of all open (might be extended), and not time-limited. Don't be surprised if this guy's sentence becomes 21 years of prison + indefinite 'forvaring'. Rune
Reply by ●July 25, 20112011-07-25
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 03:59:09 -0700 (PDT), brent <bulegoge@columbus.rr.com> wrote:>On Jul 25, 2:14�am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote: >> On Jul 14, 5:46�am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: >> >> > Hooray for the Flying Spaghetti Monster!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523 >> >> Better that than a "Christian fundamentalist" freemason >> with an ambition to instigate another Crusade and >> general religious wars. >> >> Rune > >He seems to be more of a self proclaimed Darwinist. Freemasonry and >fundamental Christianity are mutually exclusive (fundamental >Christianity as defined in the USA is a conservative christian who >believes in the inerency of the bible the virgin birth, the >resurrection, etc. he does not appear to believe literally in this >stuff). He is sympathetic with the Christian culture of Europe but >but seems to be a far cry from being a Christian.Hi Brent, Although he seems to be anti-Muslim I haven't read anything that indicates that the Oslo murderer was a strict Christian. It appears he was horrifyingly disturbed by what he perceived as changes in his Norwegian culture caused by Muslim immigrants. We'll learn more, assuming the news agencies write the truth, in the future. I'd really like to know what were the details of his motivation. But there's no doubt, he is an insane demon. [-Rick-]
Reply by ●July 26, 20112011-07-26
On Jul 26, 1:27=A0am, Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote:> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 03:59:09 -0700 (PDT), brent > > > > > > <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > >On Jul 25, 2:14=A0am, Rune Allnor <all...@tele.ntnu.no> wrote: > >> On Jul 14, 5:46=A0am, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: > > >> > Hooray for the Flying Spaghetti Monster!http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wo=rld-europe-14135523> > >> Better that than a "Christian fundamentalist" freemason > >> with an ambition to instigate another Crusade and > >> general religious wars. > > >> Rune > > >He seems to be more of a self proclaimed Darwinist. =A0Freemasonry and > >fundamental Christianity are mutually exclusive (fundamental > >Christianity as defined in the USA is a conservative christian who > >believes in the inerency of the bible the virgin birth, the > >resurrection, etc. he does not appear to believe =A0literally in this > >stuff). =A0He is sympathetic with the Christian culture of Europe but > >but seems to be a far cry from being a Christian. > > Hi Brent, > =A0 Although he seems to be anti-Muslim I haven't > read anything that indicates that the Oslo > murderer was a strict Christian.The term used in the press conference was 'he frequented Christian fundamentalist websites.'>=A0It appears he > was horrifyingly disturbed by what he perceived > as changes in his Norwegian culture caused by > Muslim immigrants.One term used on the news last night was 'counter jihadist.' Crusader.>=A0We'll learn > more, assuming the news agencies write the truth, > in the future. =A0I'd really like to know what were > the details of his motivation.You probably will have to dig for those. The general impression is that this tragedy was intended as PR for a political manifesto, much inspired by (and, apprently, ripped off) Ted Kazinsky. The local press is extremely cautious to discuss this manifesto, as doing so woul play straight into the perpetrator's hands.>=A0But there's no doubt, > he is an insane demon.Agreed. Rune
