Hi Charles, in the hope it is not too late - when I came to see you last month we talked about the planned new exam timetable (1st tech exam mid-February or something). My preferred list of seven major scales in thirds would be, simply: Eb Bb F C G D A. However, I would not have a problem, given that timetable, asking for all 12 keys (and if Nikki agrees), if we required a "minimum of two octaves" to leave some flexibility (and maybe healthy competition) according to entry standard; and of course if it equates reasonably with requirements for other instruments. For students with the usual bad fingerings, working on 3rds is better started sooner than later! Cheers, Richard
scales in 3rds...
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:26:16 +0100, Richard Dobson <richarddobson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:>Hi Charles, > >in the hope it is not too late - when I came to see you last month we >talked about the planned new exam timetable (1st tech exam mid-February >or something). My preferred list of seven major scales in thirds would >be, simply: Eb Bb F C G D A. > >However, I would not have a problem, given that timetable, asking for >all 12 keys (and if Nikki agrees), if we required a "minimum of two >octaves" to leave some flexibility (and maybe healthy competition) >according to entry standard; and of course if it equates reasonably with >requirements for other instruments. For students with the usual bad >fingerings, working on 3rds is better started sooner than later! > >Cheers, > >RichardWell, at least this wasn't intended for the mistress. ;) Eric Jacobsen http://www.ericjacobsen.org http://www.dsprelated.com/blogs-1//Eric_Jacobsen.php
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:34:28 +0000, Eric Jacobsen wrote:> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:26:16 +0100, Richard Dobson > <richarddobson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>Hi Charles, >> >>in the hope it is not too late - when I came to see you last month we >>talked about the planned new exam timetable (1st tech exam mid-February >>or something). My preferred list of seven major scales in thirds would >>be, simply: Eb Bb F C G D A. >> >>However, I would not have a problem, given that timetable, asking for >>all 12 keys (and if Nikki agrees), if we required a "minimum of two >>octaves" to leave some flexibility (and maybe healthy competition) >>according to entry standard; and of course if it equates reasonably with >>requirements for other instruments. For students with the usual bad >>fingerings, working on 3rds is better started sooner than later! >> >>Cheers, >> >>Richard > > Well, at least this wasn't intended for the mistress. > > ;) >I keep waiting, but all the misdirected mail is so _mundane_. -- www.wescottdesign.com
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On 31/08/2011 17:23, Tim Wescott wrote: ..>> Well, at least this wasn't intended for the mistress. >> >> ;) >>If only...> > I keep waiting, but all the misdirected mail is so _mundane_. >Yeah, sorry folks! At least I got it half-right this time, as it went to the right target as well! Richard Dobson
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On Aug 31, 11:26�pm, Richard Dobson <richarddob...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:> Hi Charles, > > in the hope it is not too late - when I came to see you last month we > talked about the planned new exam timetable (1st tech exam mid-February > or something). My preferred list of seven major scales in thirds would > be, simply: �Eb Bb F C G D A. > > However, I would not have a problem, given that timetable, asking for > all 12 keys (and if Nikki agrees), if we required a "minimum of two > octaves" to leave some flexibility (and maybe healthy competition) > according to entry standard; and of course if it equates reasonably with > requirements for other instruments. For students with the usual bad > fingerings, working on 3rds is better started sooner than later! > > Cheers, > > RichardDon't forget your contrary motion too..practice practice...
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On 31/08/2011 20:06, HardySpicer wrote: ..> > Don't forget your contrary motion too..practice practice...Nice thought. But this is for a flute. Richard Dobson
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On 8/31/11 7:26 AM, Richard Dobson wrote:> Hi Charles,i dunno who Charles is nor who Nikki is.> > in the hope it is not too late - when I came to see you last month we > talked about the planned new exam timetable (1st tech exam mid-February > or something). My preferred list of seven major scales in thirds would > be, simply: Eb Bb F C G D A.what do you mean "in thirds"? the spacing of those notes are perfect 4ths, neither major nor minor 3rds. (maybe you could call them "augmented 3rds.)> However, I would not have a problem, given that timetable, asking for > all 12 keys (and if Nikki agrees), if we required a "minimum of two > octaves" to leave some flexibility (and maybe healthy competition) > according to entry standard; and of course if it equates reasonably with > requirements for other instruments. For students with the usual bad > fingerings, working on 3rds is better started sooner than later!boy, Richard, i'm intrigued, but i cannot figger out technically what the problem is or what you're writing about here. i have a pretty good notion of scales and keys and other music concepts, but i just don't get this. -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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On 31/08/2011 20:38, robert bristow-johnson wrote:> On 8/31/11 7:26 AM, Richard Dobson wrote: >> Hi Charles, > > i dunno who Charles is nor who Nikki is. > >> >> in the hope it is not too late - when I came to see you last month we >> talked about the planned new exam timetable (1st tech exam mid-February >> or something). My preferred list of seven major scales in thirds would >> be, simply: Eb Bb F C G D A. > > what do you mean "in thirds"? the spacing of those notes are perfect > 4ths, neither major nor minor 3rds. (maybe you could call them > "augmented 3rds.) >Er, that is a bit of a musical noob question, Robert! Those are the names of keys: Eb major, Bb major, etc, in the standard "circle of fifths" sequence (ascending fifths in this case). So in this list, three scales have flats, three have sharps, and C major of course has none. And a scale in thirds goes e.g. in C major, ascending: C-E-D-F-E-G-F-A-G-B-A-C etc. Richard Dobson
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On 31/08/2011 20:38, robert bristow-johnson wrote:> On 8/31/11 7:26 AM, Richard Dobson wrote: >> Hi Charles, > > i dunno who Charles is nor who Nikki is. >And once again, it was sent unintentionally to the list (so, line manager plus colleague). Preparation for imminent arrival of new students. Richard Dobson
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:08:38 +0100, Richard Dobson <richarddobson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:>On 31/08/2011 20:38, robert bristow-johnson wrote: >> On 8/31/11 7:26 AM, Richard Dobson wrote: >>> Hi Charles, >> >> i dunno who Charles is nor who Nikki is. >> >>> >>> in the hope it is not too late - when I came to see you last month we >>> talked about the planned new exam timetable (1st tech exam mid-February >>> or something). My preferred list of seven major scales in thirds would >>> be, simply: Eb Bb F C G D A. >> >> what do you mean "in thirds"? the spacing of those notes are perfect >> 4ths, neither major nor minor 3rds. (maybe you could call them >> "augmented 3rds.) >> > >Er, that is a bit of a musical noob question, Robert! Those are the >names of keys: Eb major, Bb major, etc, in the standard "circle of >fifths" sequence (ascending fifths in this case). So in this list, three >scales have flats, three have sharps, and C major of course has none. >And a scale in thirds goes e.g. in C major, ascending: >C-E-D-F-E-G-F-A-G-B-A-C etc. > >Richard DobsonDayum, ascending third scales in all twelve keys for beginning students? You guys are brutal! ;) Eric Jacobsen http://www.ericjacobsen.org http://www.dsprelated.com/blogs-1//Eric_Jacobsen.php
