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Low Jerk Throttle & Brake Controllers for Public Buses

Started by Bret Cahill August 31, 2011
Some railroad reg. requires a passenger train to decelerate with a
jerk < 2 m/sec^3.  Don't how or even if they do it on trains but it's
a good idea to keep the jerk down when passengers are out of their
seats and walking to an exit.

It could be done automatically on public buses to reduce tumbling down
the aisle incidents.  It would also reduce the multi tasking load on
bus drivers trying to pull out into heavy traffic before passengers
are seated..

The brake pedal would have an override, i.e., stomping all the way
down, in case a pedestrian stepped out in front of the bus.

The number of elderly will soar along with fuel prices so this will
save a lot of lives.


Bret Cahill



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Bret Cahill wrote:
> Some railroad reg. requires a passenger train to decelerate with a > jerk< 2 m/sec^3. Don't how or even if they do it on trains but it's > a good idea to keep the jerk down when passengers are out of their > seats and walking to an exit. > > It could be done automatically on public buses to reduce tumbling down > the aisle incidents. It would also reduce the multi tasking load on > bus drivers trying to pull out into heavy traffic before passengers > are seated.. > > The brake pedal would have an override, i.e., stomping all the way > down, in case a pedestrian stepped out in front of the bus. > > The number of elderly will soar along with fuel prices so this will > save a lot of lives. > > > Bret Cahill
As a Senior Citizen who in-spite of a Berg Balance Score in low-mid 20's actually can walk with 2 canes *NO* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not believe you have: 1. observed the problem set in the field 2. correctly identified the actual condition of maximum hazard 3. considered "Law of Unintended Consequences"
><snip all groups but comp.dsp> >As a Senior Citizen who in-spite of a Berg Balance Score in low-mid >20's actually can walk with 2 canes
That conjours up an image of someone being rated for how well they balance on a large block of ice floating on flowing water. Steve
"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> Some railroad reg. requires a passenger train to decelerate with a > jerk < 2 m/sec^3. Don't how or even if they do it on trains but it's > a good idea to keep the jerk down when passengers are out of their > seats and walking to an exit. > > It could be done automatically on public buses to reduce tumbling down > the aisle incidents. It would also reduce the multi tasking load on > bus drivers trying to pull out into heavy traffic before passengers > are seated.. > > The brake pedal would have an override, i.e., stomping all the way > down, in case a pedestrian stepped out in front of the bus. > > The number of elderly will soar along with fuel prices so this will > save a lot of lives. > > > Bret Cahill
Gee, that was almost interesting.
steveu wrote:
>> <snip all groups but comp.dsp> >> As a Senior Citizen who in-spite of a Berg Balance Score in low-mid >> 20's actually can walk with 2 canes > > That conjours up an image of someone being rated for how well they balance > on a large block of ice floating on flowing water. > > Steve >
How about a minuscule flake of ice ;/ OP had not done homework.
On 2011-08-31, Bret Cahill <BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Some railroad reg. requires a passenger train to decelerate with a > jerk < 2 m/sec^3. Don't how or even if they do it on trains but it's > a good idea to keep the jerk down when passengers are out of their > seats and walking to an exit.
> It could be done automatically on public buses to reduce tumbling down > the aisle incidents. It would also reduce the multi tasking load on > bus drivers trying to pull out into heavy traffic before passengers > are seated..
sounds dangerous. trains don't have to deal with other traffic. you should try this on a simulator, perhaps the TORCS software could be modified to emulate with your constraints. -- &#9858;&#9859; 100% natural --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to news@netfront.net ---
On Aug 31, 11:36&#4294967295;pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Some railroad reg. requires a passenger train to decelerate with a > jerk < 2 m/sec^3. &#4294967295;Don't how or even if they do it on trains but it's > a good idea to keep the jerk down when passengers are out of their > seats and walking to an exit. > > It could be done automatically on public buses to reduce tumbling down > the aisle incidents. &#4294967295;It would also reduce the multi tasking load on > bus drivers trying to pull out into heavy traffic before passengers > are seated.. > > The brake pedal would have an override, i.e., stomping all the way > down, in case a pedestrian stepped out in front of the bus. > > The number of elderly will soar along with fuel prices so this will > save a lot of lives. > > Bret Cahill
There has to be a reason why you've posted this on alt.g-w, surely?
Dear Dawlish:

On Sep 1, 4:07&#4294967295;am, Dawlish <pjg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 31, 11:36&#4294967295;pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote: > > Bret Cahill > > There has to be a reason why you've posted this on > alt.g-w, surely?
He doesn't feel like he exists if someone is not giving him sh*t about his ideas. Plenty of that being flung in alt.g-w. David A. Smith
On 2011-08-31, Bret Cahill <BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Some railroad reg. requires a passenger train to decelerate with a > jerk < 2 m/sec^3. Don't how or even if they do it on trains but it's > a good idea to keep the jerk down when passengers are out of their > seats and walking to an exit.
IMHO, the location of the jerk is the driver's seat, so that's where you want to be removing the problem.
> > Some railroad reg. requires a passenger train to decelerate with a > > jerk < 2 m/sec^3. &#4294967295;Don't how or even if they do it on trains but it's > > a good idea to keep the jerk down when passengers are out of their > > seats and walking to an exit. > > > It could be done automatically on public buses to reduce tumbling down > > the aisle incidents. &#4294967295;It would also reduce the multi tasking load on > > bus drivers trying to pull out into heavy traffic before passengers > > are seated.. > > > The brake pedal would have an override, i.e., stomping all the way > > down, in case a pedestrian stepped out in front of the bus. > > > The number of elderly will soar along with fuel prices so this will > > save a lot of lives. > > > Bret Cahill > > There has to be a reason why you've posted this on alt.g-w, surely?
A bus can operate at up to 200 passenger miles / gallon. Bret Cahill