http://cdn.videosift.com/static/Miss-USA-2011-Should-Math-Be-Taught-In-Schools/index.html?1315892583 God help us! Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:31:52 -0400, Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:>http://cdn.videosift.com/static/Miss-USA-2011-Should-Math-Be-Taught-In-Schools/index.html?1315892583 > >God help us! > >Jerry >-- >Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.That's a very nicely done parody of this video, which is real with actual contestants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkBmhM0R2A0&feature=youtu.be Eric Jacobsen Anchor Hill Communications www.anchorhill.com
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On Sep 29, 12:48�am, eric.jacob...@ieee.org (Eric Jacobsen) wrote:> On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:31:52 -0400, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: > >http://cdn.videosift.com/static/Miss-USA-2011-Should-Math-Be-Taught-I... > > >God help us! > > >Jerry > >-- > >Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. > > That's a very nicely done parody of this video, which is real with > actual contestants: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkBmhM0R2A0&feature=youtu.be > > Eric Jacobsen > Anchor Hill Communicationswww.anchorhill.comYour link to anchorhill.com does not work through google groups, and yet if I get your site outside of google groups it works fine. I don't know why , but perhaps because it comes up anchorhill.com/ site ? and google does not like the site inserted in ?
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On Sep 29, 4:31�pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:> http://cdn.videosift.com/static/Miss-USA-2011-Should-Math-Be-Taught-I... > > God help us! > > Jerry > -- > Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.Indeed, once again they cannot spell Maths correctly!! Hardy
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On Sep 28, 11:31�pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:> http://cdn.videosift.com/static/Miss-USA-2011-Should-Math-Be-Taught-I... > > God help us! > > Jerry > -- > Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.Miss Arkansas pretty much blew the cover on this one.
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:48:57 +0000, Eric Jacobsen wrote:> On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:31:52 -0400, Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote: > >>http://cdn.videosift.com/static/Miss-USA-2011-Should-Math-Be-Taught-In-Schools/index.html?1315892583>> >>God help us! >> >>Jerry >>-- >>Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. > > That's a very nicely done parody of this video, which is real with > actual contestants: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkBmhM0R2A0&feature=youtu.beI watched the real vid. Miss Arkansas was #1 and was OK -- it fits right in with my prejudices that someone from down south should believe that only what she believes should be taught in schools. But Miss Alaska (#2) made me bail out of it -- too many ums and wells, and "Evolution is part of our belief system", as if science is a religion. Then I got to reflecting: Science _is_ a belief system: it's based on the belief that either there are no gods (or is no God), or that whatever Deity created the universe isn't a (insert bad word here) liar. I haven't decided yet whether or not there are supernatural powers at work above and behind the Universe, or whether they're honest, but I _did_ decide a long time ago that if Evolution is just a great big joke that the biologists haven't gotten yet, that it/he/she/they don't deserve to get any belief from _me_. So I guess that Evolution is part of my belief system, and that Miss Arkansas wants to believe in a God who's quite happy to lie to her. -- www.wescottdesign.com
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On 9/29/2011 2:16 AM, brent wrote:> On Sep 28, 11:31 pm, Jerry Avins<j...@ieee.org> wrote: >> http://cdn.videosift.com/static/Miss-USA-2011-Should-Math-Be-Taught-I... >> >> God help us! >> >> Jerry >> -- >> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. > > Miss Arkansas pretty much blew the cover on this one.One of those lines would make a nice sig. Jerry -- Math is a theory. It's not at all what the Bible tells us.
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:52:09 -0500, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> wrote:>Then I got to reflecting: Science _is_ a belief system: it's based on >the belief that either there are no gods (or is no God), or that whatever >Deity created the universe isn't a (insert bad word here) liar. I >haven't decided yet whether or not there are supernatural powers at work >above and behind the Universe, or whether they're honest, but I _did_ >decide a long time ago that if Evolution is just a great big joke that >the biologists haven't gotten yet, that it/he/she/they don't deserve to >get any belief from _me_.Saw it somewhere: "If there is a God, then He has a really sick sense of humor."
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:45:33 -0500, Greg Berchin <gjberchin@chatter.net.invalid> wrote:>On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:52:09 -0500, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> wrote: > >>Then I got to reflecting: Science _is_ a belief system: it's based on >>the belief that either there are no gods (or is no God), or that whatever >>Deity created the universe isn't a (insert bad word here) liar. I >>haven't decided yet whether or not there are supernatural powers at work >>above and behind the Universe, or whether they're honest, but I _did_ >>decide a long time ago that if Evolution is just a great big joke that >>the biologists haven't gotten yet, that it/he/she/they don't deserve to >>get any belief from _me_. > >Saw it somewhere: "If there is a God, then He has a really sick sense of humor."If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever. -- Woody Allen Who also said: To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition. -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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i had trouble relating to the thread, simply because of the title. On 9/29/11 12:48 AM, Eric Jacobsen wrote:> On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:31:52 -0400, Jerry Avins<jya@ieee.org> wrote: > >> http://cdn.videosift.com/static/Miss-USA-2011-Should-Math-Be-Taught-In-Schools/index.html?1315892583i sorta liked Miss Vermont on that one. it reminds me of an NPA meeting (local multi-partisan neighborhood meeting) we had recently when the school district was running low and they were sorta asking us what to cut (somehow maths and sciences got into the mix and my response was sorta like that of faux Ms. VT).>> God help us!no shit. i've been saying that for decades. the US is one very seriously fucked-up and too-powerful of a nation. and *way* too self-assured.> That's a very nicely done parody of this video, which is real with > actual contestants: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkBmhM0R2A0&feature=youtu.bei didn't bother to fast-forward to VT for that one. stopped at CA. as far as the greater topic is concerned (belief systems), one of the reasons i like to beat a mathematical problem to death is to discover a more basic meaning behind the math(s). the best example i can think of to point you guys to is the Audio EQ Cookbook, where i wanted to have as much in common between the various filter types as possible and i wanted to get rid of the w0/2 (by busting the tan(w0/2) into cos(w0) and sin(w0) - when w0 is the significant frequency, there is less meaning to math based on half that frequency). it's not enough for me that the math is "correct", it has to be simplified with the meaningful relationships unobscured. having a concept of underlying meaning is very important to me. a totally materialistic understanding of the reality we find ourselves in is not meaningful enough for me. -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
