as phd student in electrical eng ( wireless )in your opion whicg math courses are imporatant among the follwing QUEUEING THEORM PROBABILTY COURSE game theory more over does he need programming language such as java for example
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On 7 Nov, 08:15, sami <jehan...@yahoo.com> wrote:> as �phd student �in electrical eng ( wireless )in your opion whicg > math courses are imporatant among the follwing > > QUEUEING THEORMWhat's that?> PROBABILTY COURSECertainly. The more the better. Indispensable for low-level work.> game theoryMaybe. Might be useful for system evaluations.> more over does � he need programming language such as java for exampleNo. He needs to learn useful stuff, like assembler, C, C++ and the likes. Java is way too high level. Rune
Reply by ●November 7, 20112011-11-07
sami wrote:> as phd student in electrical eng ( wireless )in your opion whicg > math courses are imporatant among the follwing > > QUEUEING THEORM > > PROBABILTY COURSE > > game theory > > more over does he need programming language such as java for exampleHe should learn basic things first: personal hygiene, dining with spoon and fork, how to use a clock and other stuff like that.
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On Nov 7, 1:15�am, sami <jehan...@yahoo.com> wrote:> as �phd student �in electrical eng ( wireless )in your opion whicg > math courses are imporatant among the follwing > > QUEUEING THEORM > > PROBABILTY COURSE > > game theory > > more over does � he need programming language such as java for exampleProbability is required (in my opinion). I once took a queuing theory class just because I needed the hours. It was very interesting, but has not been too useful except for bocking theory, and blocking probability. If he goes into telecommunications, he may need it.
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:49:51 -0800, Rune Allnor wrote:> On 7 Nov, 08:15, sami <jehan...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> as phd student in electrical eng ( wireless )in your opion whicg math >> courses are imporatant among the follwing >> >> QUEUEING THEORM > > What's that? > >> PROBABILTY COURSE > > Certainly. The more the better. Indispensable for low-level work. > >> game theory > > Maybe. Might be useful for system evaluations. > >> more over does he need programming language such as java for example > > No. He needs to learn useful stuff, like assembler, C, C++ and the > likes. Java is way too high level.I was going to say "Java and then C", but I'm going to agree with Rune instead. Learn C. Take at least one assembly-language programming course, or at least find a tutorial and do it. I think that in over 20 years of professional engineering I've written exactly one program 100% in assembly language; that was for a PIC12 processor and probably had less than two dozen instructions -- the whole thing probably fit on a page (it was a brushless motor commutation to signed velocity converter). But I have yet to use a DSP tool chain that really gets vector dot products (FIR filtering) right, and that's generally as far as they ever go. So I end up doing things in assembly like vector dot products and block floating point matrix multiplies, and for new boards I'm often dinking around with 'startup.s'. I know that in over 20 years of professional engineering I've written exactly zero programs in Java. I've done some stuff at home for fun, but nothing that was used in anger. Java is great fun to play with, but unless you're going to be writing tools for other folks to use to do real stuff, it's probably not going to impact your day-to-day job as much as C, C++, and assembly. -- www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by ●November 7, 20112011-11-07
>as phd student in electrical eng ( wireless )in your opion whicg >math courses are imporatant among the follwing > >QUEUEING THEORM > >PROBABILTY COURSE > >game theory > >more over does he need programming language such as java for example >Probability is indispensable. Take at least 2 graduate level courses in probability if you are majoring in telecommunications. Programming? Of course it is necessary but, do not take any programming course at a university. It's a big waste of time. Instead, do the following. 1. Pick up a project idea related to your field of study. 2. Define the algorithm in your favorite "human" language. 3. Now program it in C. If you do not know C, learn it. Game theory and queuing theory come after probability and you will know it yourself once you finish your first semester. Another important thing .Take an English course and learn how to write legibly. It will help you a lot in writing your dissertation.
Reply by ●November 7, 20112011-11-07
Tim Wescott wrote:> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:49:51 -0800, Rune Allnor wrote: > > >> He needs to learn useful stuff, like assembler, C, C++ and the >>likes. Java is way too high level. > > I was going to say "Java and then C", but I'm going to agree with Rune > instead. Learn C."Don't use a red pen. Use a green pencil." Nonsense. There is no more difference between programming languages then between pens and pencils. It doesn't matter as long as you know what to write and how to write.> I think that in over 20 years of professional engineering I've written > exactly one program 100% in assembly language; that was for a PIC12 > processor and probably had less than two dozen instructionsI used to write ~20K line programs in assembler. I consider this a normal step in professional development :-)> I know that in over 20 years of professional engineering I've written > exactly zero programs in Java. I've done some stuff at home for fun, but > nothing that was used in anger.I did several projects in Java. Including signal processing, too. It had to do with cross-platform compatibility.> Java is great fun to play with, but unless you're going to be writing > tools for other folks to use to do real stuff, it's probably not going to > impact your day-to-day job as much as C, C++, and assembly.There is a whole market of programming for smartphones, iPods and such, where Java is essential tool. Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant http://www.abvolt.com
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On 7 Nov, 17:45, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote:> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:49:51 -0800, Rune Allnor wrote: > > On 7 Nov, 08:15, sami <jehan...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> as �phd student �in electrical eng ( wireless )in your opion whicg math > >> courses are imporatant among the follwing > > >> QUEUEING THEORM > > > What's that? > > >> PROBABILTY COURSE > > > Certainly. The more the better. Indispensable for low-level work. > > >> game theory > > > Maybe. Might be useful for system evaluations. > > >> more over does � he need programming language such as java for example > > > No. He needs to learn useful stuff, like assembler, C, C++ and the > > likes. Java is way too high level. > > I was going to say "Java and then C", but I'm going to agree with Rune > instead.What?! A regular poster on comp.dsp agreeing with *me*?! Voluntarily?! And in Public?! Tim, you need to review your diet. Have anyone been feeding you 'vitamines' lately? Rune
Reply by ●November 7, 20112011-11-07
On Nov 7, 8:15�pm, sami <jehan...@yahoo.com> wrote:> as �phd student �in electrical eng ( wireless )in your opion whicg > math courses are imporatant among the follwing > > QUEUEING THEORM > > PROBABILTY COURSE > > game theory > > more over does � he need programming language such as java for exampleFirst learn to spell Maths (plural). You don't study Home Economic do you?
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HardySpicer <gyansorova@gmail.com> wrote: (snip)> First learn to spell Maths (plural). You don't study Home > Economic do you?Where are you? As far as I know, in the US it is math. I believe as a collective noun, not as singular, but it is short for mathematics in any case. Not home economic, but there are other singular forms. Economic forecast, economic downturn, economic survival for example. Now, is there a world economy, or is it the separate economies of all the countries? Maybe that is what the Europeans want to know. -- glen
