It has been a lot of fun for the past week because my power has been out. Usually I depend on 3D cad programs, MATLAB, and Mathematica for most of my work. The past week I have been working from my library of books and on paper and it has retaught me a lot! This brings up a question I have which might help a lot of beginners a lot. What is the best printed book which everyone has read on the subject of DSP. (Excluding Rabiner&Gold). Mark DeArman
Best DSP books published
Started by ●January 25, 2012
Reply by ●January 25, 20122012-01-25
Mac Decman <dearman.mark@gmail.com> wrote in news:m9svh79esb0lt986928nv7p0hom6548tha@4ax.com:> It has been a lot of fun for the past week because my power has been > out. Usually I depend on 3D cad programs, MATLAB, and Mathematica for > most of my work. The past week I have been working from my library of > books and on paper and it has retaught me a lot! > > This brings up a question I have which might help a lot of beginners a > lot. > > What is the best printed book which everyone has read on the subject > of DSP. (Excluding Rabiner&Gold). > > Mark DeArman >We have had this question many times over the years. The answer is "It depends" If you are not a DSP specialist, but have a technical background, then I would say Rick Lyon's latest version of Understanding Digital Signal Processing is a candidate. It is certainly my recommendation as a first book on DSP (Not O&S) I have a large library of DSP books and I certainly don't grab the same book every time. I agree that Rabiner & Gold is a great book. It has always been one of my favorites. I also like Frerking's Digital Signal Processing in Communication Systems You can always learn something from fred harris. I have his Multirate book. Al Clark www.danvillesignal.com
Reply by ●January 25, 20122012-01-25
On 1/25/12 10:10 AM, Al Clark wrote:> Mac Decman<dearman.mark@gmail.com> wrote in > news:m9svh79esb0lt986928nv7p0hom6548tha@4ax.com: >> >> What is the best printed book which everyone has read on the subject >> of DSP. (Excluding Rabiner&Gold). >> > > We have had this question many times over the years. > > The answer is "It depends" > > If you are not a DSP specialist, but have a technical background, then I > would say Rick Lyon's latest version of Understanding Digital Signal > Processing is a candidate. It is certainly my recommendation as a first book > on DSP (Not O&S) >as a reference, i've always valued my 1989 revision of O&S. it's a book that doesn't say (very often) that some niggling little concept of question is "beyond the scope of this book". the kinda navel-gazing questions would be "why is it that for minimum-phase filters (those with poles and zeros all contained in the unit circle), the phase in radians is related to the natural log of the magnitude via the Hilbert transform?" but i didn't like that O&S literally get the definition of Nyquist frequency wrong (at least Rick leaves that one alone).> I have a large library of DSP books and I certainly don't grab the same book > every time.i've seen your library. -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
Reply by ●January 25, 20122012-01-25
On 1/25/2012 7:12 AM, Mac Decman wrote:> It has been a lot of fun for the past week because my power has been > out. Usually I depend on 3D cad programs, MATLAB, and Mathematica for > most of my work. The past week I have been working from my library of > books and on paper and it has retaught me a lot! > > This brings up a question I have which might help a lot of beginners a > lot. > > What is the best printed book which everyone has read on the subject > of DSP. (Excluding Rabiner&Gold). > > Mark DeArmanNow it's my turn to seem condescending. That happens when we bluntly state what becomes immediately obvious upon having been stated. Here goes: Asking for the best book without specifying its purpose is like asking for the best vehicle without specifying its purpose. I say Lambretta, you say Trailmobile. He says M1 Abrams, she says SkiDoo. Can you narrow down the purpose? Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●January 25, 20122012-01-25
Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:> On 1/25/2012 7:12 AM, Mac Decman wrote:(snip)>> This brings up a question I have which might help a lot >> of beginners a lot.(snip)> Now it's my turn to seem condescending. That happens when we bluntly > state what becomes immediately obvious upon having been stated.> Here goes: Asking for the best book without specifying its purpose is > like asking for the best vehicle without specifying its purpose. I say > Lambretta, you say Trailmobile. He says M1 Abrams, she says SkiDoo. Can > you narrow down the purpose?I suppose, but when beginners are mentioned, it might not be quite so specific purpose. I have a few intermediate level DSP books, not that I would recommend most of them. It might be nice to have a book that someone with two years of college calculus could pick up, with otherwise little experience in DSP work, though maybe a little analog filter work. (Some physics, and most introductory EE courses should get through RC and RLC filters.) It seems to me that the question gets much harder for the higher level books, where the exact use could be pretty important. As with analog, things get somewhat different from audio frequencies, to RF and into the GHz range. Different problems need different types of filters, too. -- glen
Reply by ●January 25, 20122012-01-25
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:55:58 -0500, Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:>On 1/25/2012 7:12 AM, Mac Decman wrote: >> It has been a lot of fun for the past week because my power has been >> out. Usually I depend on 3D cad programs, MATLAB, and Mathematica for >> most of my work. The past week I have been working from my library of >> books and on paper and it has retaught me a lot! >> >> This brings up a question I have which might help a lot of beginners a >> lot. >> >> What is the best printed book which everyone has read on the subject >> of DSP. (Excluding Rabiner&Gold). >> >> Mark DeArman > >Now it's my turn to seem condescending. That happens when we bluntly >state what becomes immediately obvious upon having been stated. > >Here goes: Asking for the best book without specifying its purpose is >like asking for the best vehicle without specifying its purpose. I say >Lambretta, you say Trailmobile. He says M1 Abrams, she says SkiDoo. Can >you narrow down the purpose? > >JerryJerry, I was thinking more about beginners. Lots of pictures type of thing. Introduction to DFT, Filters, etc. maybe with audio processing as the subject since it is easy for people to understand. Mark DeArman
Reply by ●January 25, 20122012-01-25
In article <m9svh79esb0lt986928nv7p0hom6548tha@4ax.com>, dearman.mark@gmail.com says...>It has been a lot of fun for the past week because my power has been >out. Usually I depend on 3D cad programs, MATLAB, and Mathematica for >most of my work. The past week I have been working from my library of >books and on paper and it has retaught me a lot! > >This brings up a question I have which might help a lot of beginners a >lot. > >What is the best printed book which everyone has read on the subject >of DSP. (Excluding Rabiner&Gold).I like this one a lot: Mitra & Kaiser: "Handbook for Digital Signal Processing" Each chapter is written by a recognized expert in the field.
Reply by ●January 25, 20122012-01-25
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:35:30 -0800, Robert Orban <spambucket2413@earthlink.net> wrote:>In article <m9svh79esb0lt986928nv7p0hom6548tha@4ax.com>, >dearman.mark@gmail.com says... >>It has been a lot of fun for the past week because my power has been >>out. Usually I depend on 3D cad programs, MATLAB, and Mathematica for >>most of my work. The past week I have been working from my library of >>books and on paper and it has retaught me a lot! >> >>This brings up a question I have which might help a lot of beginners a >>lot. >> >>What is the best printed book which everyone has read on the subject >>of DSP. (Excluding Rabiner&Gold). > >I like this one a lot: > >Mitra & Kaiser: "Handbook for Digital Signal Processing" > >Each chapter is written by a recognized expert in the field.Funny I had never seen this one before. Looks like a great reference. Mark DeArman
Reply by ●January 26, 20122012-01-26
On 1/25/2012 5:26 PM, Mac Decman wrote:> On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:55:58 -0500, Jerry Avins<jya@ieee.org> wrote: > >> On 1/25/2012 7:12 AM, Mac Decman wrote: >>> It has been a lot of fun for the past week because my power has been >>> out. Usually I depend on 3D cad programs, MATLAB, and Mathematica for >>> most of my work. The past week I have been working from my library of >>> books and on paper and it has retaught me a lot! >>> >>> This brings up a question I have which might help a lot of beginners a >>> lot. >>> >>> What is the best printed book which everyone has read on the subject >>> of DSP. (Excluding Rabiner&Gold). >>> >>> Mark DeArman >> >> Now it's my turn to seem condescending. That happens when we bluntly >> state what becomes immediately obvious upon having been stated. >> >> Here goes: Asking for the best book without specifying its purpose is >> like asking for the best vehicle without specifying its purpose. I say >> Lambretta, you say Trailmobile. He says M1 Abrams, she says SkiDoo. Can >> you narrow down the purpose? >> >> Jerry > > Jerry, > > I was thinking more about beginners. Lots of pictures type of thing. > Introduction to DFT, Filters, etc. maybe with audio processing as the > subject since it is easy for people to understand.Well, then I have two suggestions. Only two probably reflects mt inexperience. _Understanding_Digital_Signal_Processing_ by Richard G. Lyons (Blurb at http://tinyurl.com/73vz46f.) Rick posts here regularly. _The Scientist_and_Engineer's_Guide_to_Digital_Signal_Processing_ by Steven W. Smith, Ph.D. This is also available in PDF at http://www.dspguide.com/. Smith used to post here occasionally until he appeared to embarrass himself during what I assumed was some sort of breakdown. He would be welcomed back. There is a reading list at http://www.dspguru.com/. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●January 26, 20122012-01-26
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:10:11 GMT, Al Clark <aclark@danvillesignal.com> wrote: [Snipped by Lyons]> >We have had this question many times over the years. > >The answer is "It depends" > >If you are not a DSP specialist, but have a technical background, then I >would say Rick Lyon's latest version of Understanding Digital Signal >Processing is a candidate. It is certainly my recommendation as a first book >on DSP (Not O&S) > >I have a large library of DSP books and I certainly don't grab the same book >every time. > >I agree that Rabiner & Gold is a great book. It has always been one of my >favorites. I also like Frerking's Digital Signal Processing in Communication >Systems You can always learn something from fred harris. I have his Multirate >book. > >Al ClarkHi Al, Thanks for the kind words about my book. I've seen your library of DSP books. If you ever move, it'll take a forklift to carry all your books out to the moving truck. See Ya', [-Rick-]
