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The Best Name for Signal Recovery Matched Filtering

Started by Bret Cahill April 19, 2012
On 4/19/2012 2:43 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
> I just assumed "matched filtering" included the deconvolution and > other steps to recover the original signal's shape. > > In this case it was actually easier to invent a new filter -- I > assumed it already existed -- than to be scholarly and do some > research. > > To avoid confusion with the terminology from now on the filter that > takes the convolution of a noisy signal like a conventional matched > filter and then takes the deconvolution to recover the original wave > form should be called "signal recovery matched filtering." > > This will distinguish it from the signal detection matched filter > _even if the new filter is used for signal detection_. > > I've updated http://www.bretcahill.com to reflect the new terminology. > > If anyone can think of a better name, i.e., the "Cahill Filter" please > post. >
Filtering (convolution) in the time domain is multiplication in the frequency domain, and is therefore associative. If you apply a filter F and its inverse F^-1 to a signal G, F^-1 (F G) = (F^-1 F) G = G. No free lunch, I'm afraid. (I once tried something reminiscent of that to improve loop stability of a PLL. It turned out that I'd made an algebra error, and was in fact trying to make a time machine. It didn't work.) ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
Phil Hobbs wrote:
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> > (I once tried something reminiscent of that to improve loop stability of > a PLL. It turned out that I'd made an algebra error, and was in fact > trying to make a time machine. It didn't work.) ;) >
I've been trying to make a time machine* all week. It's damned difficult, I must say! *In this case, a filter with alpha of 0.001 with no delay. Er rather, a filter plus some other furniture. Or, as it turns out, not. Stupid Second Law!
> Cheers > > Phil Hobbs > > > >
-- Les Cargill
On 06/26/2015 11:08 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
> Phil Hobbs wrote: > <snip> >> >> (I once tried something reminiscent of that to improve loop stability of >> a PLL. It turned out that I'd made an algebra error, and was in fact >> trying to make a time machine. It didn't work.) ;) >> > > I've been trying to make a time machine* all week. It's damned > difficult, I must say! > > *In this case, a filter with alpha of 0.001 with no delay. Er > rather, a filter plus some other furniture. Or, as > it turns out, not. Stupid Second Law!
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