Support? I am so mad at Analog Devices

Started by Randy Dawson November 8, 2003
I am using the 21xx family procesors, and I am sucking up information
as fast as I can find it (Thanks Herman, bought your disk, I love
Aerospace Software!)

OK I have the 2181 EZKIT, it sat around here for 5 years before I got
serious,  I was totaly impressed with the demos, Stairway to Heaven
wow!
The monitor source did not include the MPEG because it was from Xing
and I understand that.  Well I decide to use the 2189 in a real
project, I spent months laying out my board, and routing each signal
manualy with care.  I used ST flash with I/O, a really cool part  BTW
DSM150.  I got the "blink the light"  code to work,  and a  yeee haw
the board works! feeling about a month ago.  Now I am getting serious
about the software.  Yea, VDSP3.0 is one more IDE to learn, ughhh, oh
well.  I bought the 2189 EZkit - hey no demos?  nothing really, no
code exept a multiply example.  Hey the board has a codec on it, and
no eprom this time, a flash instead.  Come on Analog Devices, where is
the stuff!  Not even a talkthru microphone in to speaker out ike the
old 2181 years ago...how about a flash file system?
OK, I compile the monitor source code 7.0 that came with VDSP3.0, and
JTAG to my hardware and my flash, funny, I have the LED still there,
but it does not blink like the same FL1 LED EZKIT on power up, the
code is different! Soooo....
Hello DSP support, guess what it took 3 emails, and the final answer,
"we do not support the monitor, or provide the source"
Man come on, evey DSP and microcontroller vendor out there gives you
the eval board or monitor source, I am talking about the Intel RISM,
the Phillips 8051 flash sources,  monitor or "soft ice" code is
available everywhere... even AD provides it with the 8051
microconverter.
I think there are some unpaid bills between White Mountain DSP and
Analog Devices (designers of the ezkit and its software)

Where is the F**ing source!   Further, show me a real working v.32
modem, come on is this not public domain for this DSP by now?
Snippets of the code are in there books, and the FTP site hints at a
real working example, but when support is confronted with this..."The
code belongs to a third party"

I am burning... This is their method of forcing me into a real ICE at
$3k.  I hear you 29xx USB guys are screaming too, downloads take
forever.  Blackfin? huh, anywone want to install this BGA, sorry I
cannot do it in my garage shop...

Hey, Jim Clark, your PIC to 28xx board looks pretty neat, do you have
a way around the monitor problem in your target hardware?

Is anybody out there using a monitor on THEIR hardware, communicating
to VDSP?

Randy Dawson
In article d9rlqv4kmhf5nmdm1u95ig1s9smqrdafho@4ax.com, Randy Dawson at
dnasoc@swbell.net wrote on 11/08/2003 00:32:

... 
> Hey, Jim Clark, your PIC to 28xx board looks pretty neat, do you have > a way around the monitor problem in your target hardware?
is that *Jim* Clark or Al Clark? just curious. r b-j
I have the 2189 ezkit, it came with a talk through example, and a few others
about overlays etc.  I ended up going for the EZ-ICE for emulation, I think
it was more along the lines of $1500 or so.  I think that solves a lot of
issues when working with target boards besides the ezkit.

I've moved up to the 2191 EZ-Kit with the USB interface.  WOW! what a
difference, that kit is amazing compared to the 2189 ezkit.  as for the
emulator, it's the basic jtag model which I don't have yet.

I believe there is freeware monitor source out there that can be used.  I've
seen a few sites with it.  I don't know the capabilities, but I believe
there is something from "Aerospace" as well as something from the 2181
EZ-Kit from radio at  www.tapr.org

Anyway, best of luck.

PD




"Randy Dawson" <dnasoc@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:d9rlqv4kmhf5nmdm1u95ig1s9smqrdafho@4ax.com...
> I am using the 21xx family procesors, and I am sucking up information > as fast as I can find it (Thanks Herman, bought your disk, I love > Aerospace Software!) > > OK I have the 2181 EZKIT, it sat around here for 5 years before I got > serious, I was totaly impressed with the demos, Stairway to Heaven > wow! > The monitor source did not include the MPEG because it was from Xing > and I understand that. Well I decide to use the 2189 in a real > project, I spent months laying out my board, and routing each signal > manualy with care. I used ST flash with I/O, a really cool part BTW > DSM150. I got the "blink the light" code to work, and a yeee haw > the board works! feeling about a month ago. Now I am getting serious > about the software. Yea, VDSP3.0 is one more IDE to learn, ughhh, oh > well. I bought the 2189 EZkit - hey no demos? nothing really, no > code exept a multiply example. Hey the board has a codec on it, and > no eprom this time, a flash instead. Come on Analog Devices, where is > the stuff! Not even a talkthru microphone in to speaker out ike the > old 2181 years ago...how about a flash file system? > OK, I compile the monitor source code 7.0 that came with VDSP3.0, and > JTAG to my hardware and my flash, funny, I have the LED still there, > but it does not blink like the same FL1 LED EZKIT on power up, the > code is different! Soooo.... > Hello DSP support, guess what it took 3 emails, and the final answer, > "we do not support the monitor, or provide the source" > Man come on, evey DSP and microcontroller vendor out there gives you > the eval board or monitor source, I am talking about the Intel RISM, > the Phillips 8051 flash sources, monitor or "soft ice" code is > available everywhere... even AD provides it with the 8051 > microconverter. > I think there are some unpaid bills between White Mountain DSP and > Analog Devices (designers of the ezkit and its software) > > Where is the F**ing source! Further, show me a real working v.32 > modem, come on is this not public domain for this DSP by now? > Snippets of the code are in there books, and the FTP site hints at a > real working example, but when support is confronted with this..."The > code belongs to a third party" > > I am burning... This is their method of forcing me into a real ICE at > $3k. I hear you 29xx USB guys are screaming too, downloads take > forever. Blackfin? huh, anywone want to install this BGA, sorry I > cannot do it in my garage shop... > > Hey, Jim Clark, your PIC to 28xx board looks pretty neat, do you have > a way around the monitor problem in your target hardware? > > Is anybody out there using a monitor on THEIR hardware, communicating > to VDSP? > > Randy Dawson