Where is DSP jobs?

Hi, buddies,

I am a fresh master student. The thesis topic I have done is speech
quality enhancement. I am trying to find a DSP-related job. But after
I have sent
dozens of resume, I got almost no response. Is there anybody can give
me some
advice on the job market for DSP firmware engineers? Is it very bad
now? Will
it be better next year? Thanks very very much.

Only dozens? Try hundreds.  Try Bose in MA.

Dirk A. Bell
DSP Consultant

"Jesoph" <njlinzhong@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:207ed69c.0311071726.7107456a@posting.google.com...
> Hi, buddies,
>
> I am a fresh master student. The thesis topic I have done is speech
> quality enhancement. I am trying to find a DSP-related job. But after
> I have sent
> dozens of resume, I got almost no response. Is there anybody can give
> me some
> advice on the job market for DSP firmware engineers? Is it very bad
> now? Will
> it be better next year? Thanks very very much.

Hello Jesoph,

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if your resume' and cover letters
are written in English in a style like this post, you may want to consider
getting someone fluent in the language to help ensure that they are written
cleanly. I'm not trying to pick on you, but some employers may see something
written in rough English and make assumptions about the writer's ability or
lack thereof.
This is one of those first impressions kind of thing. And this is very
important at this stage of trying to find a job. Many companies receive
large numbers of resume's, and sometimes they have someone (a lackey) just
cull out the ones that don't sound very good. You would hate to be knocked
out of the running before you have a chance at bat.

Clay




"Jesoph" <njlinzhong@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:207ed69c.0311071726.7107456a@posting.google.com...
> Hi, buddies,
>
> I am a fresh master student. The thesis topic I have done is speech
> quality enhancement. I am trying to find a DSP-related job. But after
> I have sent
> dozens of resume, I got almost no response. Is there anybody can give
> me some
> advice on the job market for DSP firmware engineers? Is it very bad
> now? Will
> it be better next year? Thanks very very much.

1.  Write a more general resume that mentions you experience in DSP firmware 
and speech but points in a more general direction.

2.  Look at the web pages of companies producing products in which you would 
be interested.  These also frequently have areas that discuss job 
possibilities.

3.  It may take some time to find a job.  Around 1970, there was a dearth of 
engineering jobs.  I was in college at that time and people frequently 
expressed sympathy when told I was an engineering student.  I had two dozen 
interviews and several job offers when I graduated in 75 and got a job I have 
enjoyed and still enjoy.  Even at the worst of that time, engineers were able 
to get jobs within a couple of years in engineering at good salaries.

nobody@nowhere.nothing wrote in message news:<8C_qb.57690$Ub4.53506@twister.socal.rr.com>...
> 1.  Write a more general resume that mentions you experience in DSP firmware 
> and speech but points in a more general direction.
> 
> 2.  Look at the web pages of companies producing products in which you would 
> be interested.  These also frequently have areas that discuss job 
> possibilities.
> 
> 3.  It may take some time to find a job.  Around 1970, there was a dearth of 
> engineering jobs.  I was in college at that time and people frequently 
> expressed sympathy when told I was an engineering student.  I had two dozen 
> interviews and several job offers when I graduated in 75 and got a job I have 
> enjoyed and still enjoy.  Even at the worst of that time, engineers were able 
> to get jobs within a couple of years in engineering at good salaries.

2 years is a pretty long time to be without a salary, don't you think.

The downturn in 1980 was the first in my working life. An engineer in
his 60s told me that was the first time he ever saw graduate grade
engineers out of work in the UK. He said that jobs had always been
unstable, with big projects dying and laying off. However, there had
always been other jobs to go to. 1980 left some good engineers out of
work for a while. 1991/2 was worse. This time looks fairly nasty, with
early retirements absorbing a lot of the headcount reduction. Are
these cycles getting bigger and bigger, or is this just bad luck?

Regards,
Steve

Two years to get an engineering job.  Everyone who wanted a job could earn a 
salary.  

In article <80bddbd7.0311090736.7bbf8b3a@posting.google.com>, 
steveu@coppice.org (Steve Underwood) wrote:
>nobody@nowhere.nothing wrote in message
> news:<8C_qb.57690$Ub4.53506@twister.socal.rr.com>...
>> 1.  Write a more general resume that mentions you experience in DSP firmware 
>> and speech but points in a more general direction.
>> 
>> 2.  Look at the web pages of companies producing products in which you would 
>> be interested.  These also frequently have areas that discuss job 
>> possibilities.
>> 
>> 3.  It may take some time to find a job.  Around 1970, there was a dearth of 
>> engineering jobs.  I was in college at that time and people frequently 
>> expressed sympathy when told I was an engineering student.  I had two dozen 
>> interviews and several job offers when I graduated in 75 and got a job I have
> 
>> enjoyed and still enjoy.  Even at the worst of that time, engineers were able
> 
>> to get jobs within a couple of years in engineering at good salaries.
>
>2 years is a pretty long time to be without a salary, don't you think.
>
>The downturn in 1980 was the first in my working life. An engineer in
>his 60s told me that was the first time he ever saw graduate grade
>engineers out of work in the UK. He said that jobs had always been
>unstable, with big projects dying and laying off. However, there had
>always been other jobs to go to. 1980 left some good engineers out of
>work for a while. 1991/2 was worse. This time looks fairly nasty, with
>early retirements absorbing a lot of the headcount reduction. Are
>these cycles getting bigger and bigger, or is this just bad luck?
>
>Regards,
>Steve

<nobody@nowhere.nothing> wrote in message
news:uJtrb.124945$ZH4.70248@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Two years to get an engineering job.  Everyone who wanted a job could earn
a
> salary.

That is not true this time. I know experienced people with graduate degrees
who were out of work 17 months, 13 months, 6 months, ... all of who finally
took the first job offered. All of these people had also applied for
significantly lower paying jobs (that payed more than unemployment
benefits), both in engineering and in other fields, and none were
successful.

Dirk A. Bell
DSP Consultant

>
> In article <80bddbd7.0311090736.7bbf8b3a@posting.google.com>,
> steveu@coppice.org (Steve Underwood) wrote:
> >nobody@nowhere.nothing wrote in message
> > news:<8C_qb.57690$Ub4.53506@twister.socal.rr.com>...
> >> 1.  Write a more general resume that mentions you experience in DSP
firmware
> >> and speech but points in a more general direction.
> >>
> >> 2.  Look at the web pages of companies producing products in which you
would
> >> be interested.  These also frequently have areas that discuss job
> >> possibilities.
> >>
> >> 3.  It may take some time to find a job.  Around 1970, there was a
dearth of
> >> engineering jobs.  I was in college at that time and people frequently
> >> expressed sympathy when told I was an engineering student.  I had two
dozen
> >> interviews and several job offers when I graduated in 75 and got a job
I have
> >
> >> enjoyed and still enjoy.  Even at the worst of that time, engineers
were able
> >
> >> to get jobs within a couple of years in engineering at good salaries.
> >
> >2 years is a pretty long time to be without a salary, don't you think.
> >
> >The downturn in 1980 was the first in my working life. An engineer in
> >his 60s told me that was the first time he ever saw graduate grade
> >engineers out of work in the UK. He said that jobs had always been
> >unstable, with big projects dying and laying off. However, there had
> >always been other jobs to go to. 1980 left some good engineers out of
> >work for a while. 1991/2 was worse. This time looks fairly nasty, with
> >early retirements absorbing a lot of the headcount reduction. Are
> >these cycles getting bigger and bigger, or is this just bad luck?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Steve

Didn't try MacDonald's, I bet.

In article <bolu9j$5o2$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, "Dirk Bell" <dirkman@erols.com> 
wrote:
>
><nobody@nowhere.nothing> wrote in message
>news:uJtrb.124945$ZH4.70248@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> Two years to get an engineering job.  Everyone who wanted a job could earn
>a
>> salary.
>
>That is not true this time. I know experienced people with graduate degrees
>who were out of work 17 months, 13 months, 6 months, ... all of who finally
>took the first job offered. All of these people had also applied for
>significantly lower paying jobs (that payed more than unemployment
>benefits), both in engineering and in other fields, and none were
>successful.
>
>Dirk A. Bell
>DSP Consultant
>
>>
>> In article <80bddbd7.0311090736.7bbf8b3a@posting.google.com>,
>> steveu@coppice.org (Steve Underwood) wrote:
>> >nobody@nowhere.nothing wrote in message
>> > news:<8C_qb.57690$Ub4.53506@twister.socal.rr.com>...
>> >> 1.  Write a more general resume that mentions you experience in DSP
>firmware
>> >> and speech but points in a more general direction.
>> >>
>> >> 2.  Look at the web pages of companies producing products in which you
>would
>> >> be interested.  These also frequently have areas that discuss job
>> >> possibilities.
>> >>
>> >> 3.  It may take some time to find a job.  Around 1970, there was a
>dearth of
>> >> engineering jobs.  I was in college at that time and people frequently
>> >> expressed sympathy when told I was an engineering student.  I had two
>dozen
>> >> interviews and several job offers when I graduated in 75 and got a job
>I have
>> >
>> >> enjoyed and still enjoy.  Even at the worst of that time, engineers
>were able
>> >
>> >> to get jobs within a couple of years in engineering at good salaries.
>> >
>> >2 years is a pretty long time to be without a salary, don't you think.
>> >
>> >The downturn in 1980 was the first in my working life. An engineer in
>> >his 60s told me that was the first time he ever saw graduate grade
>> >engineers out of work in the UK. He said that jobs had always been
>> >unstable, with big projects dying and laying off. However, there had
>> >always been other jobs to go to. 1980 left some good engineers out of
>> >work for a while. 1991/2 was worse. This time looks fairly nasty, with
>> >early retirements absorbing a lot of the headcount reduction. Are
>> >these cycles getting bigger and bigger, or is this just bad luck?
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Steve
>
>

Doesn't pay more than unemployment.  In the current US economy there is even
competition for the crap jobs.

<nobody@nowhere.nothing> wrote in message
news:I1wrb.2401$pE3.471@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Didn't try MacDonald's, I bet.
>
> In article <bolu9j$5o2$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, "Dirk Bell"
<dirkman@erols.com>
> wrote:
> >
> ><nobody@nowhere.nothing> wrote in message
> >news:uJtrb.124945$ZH4.70248@twister.socal.rr.com...
> >> Two years to get an engineering job.  Everyone who wanted a job could
earn
> >a
> >> salary.
> >
> >That is not true this time. I know experienced people with graduate
degrees
> >who were out of work 17 months, 13 months, 6 months, ... all of who
finally
> >took the first job offered. All of these people had also applied for
> >significantly lower paying jobs (that payed more than unemployment
> >benefits), both in engineering and in other fields, and none were
> >successful.
> >
> >Dirk A. Bell
> >DSP Consultant
> >
> >>
> >> In article <80bddbd7.0311090736.7bbf8b3a@posting.google.com>,
> >> steveu@coppice.org (Steve Underwood) wrote:
> >> >nobody@nowhere.nothing wrote in message
> >> > news:<8C_qb.57690$Ub4.53506@twister.socal.rr.com>...
> >> >> 1.  Write a more general resume that mentions you experience in DSP
> >firmware
> >> >> and speech but points in a more general direction.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.  Look at the web pages of companies producing products in which
you
> >would
> >> >> be interested.  These also frequently have areas that discuss job
> >> >> possibilities.
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.  It may take some time to find a job.  Around 1970, there was a
> >dearth of
> >> >> engineering jobs.  I was in college at that time and people
frequently
> >> >> expressed sympathy when told I was an engineering student.  I had
two
> >dozen
> >> >> interviews and several job offers when I graduated in 75 and got a
job
> >I have
> >> >
> >> >> enjoyed and still enjoy.  Even at the worst of that time, engineers
> >were able
> >> >
> >> >> to get jobs within a couple of years in engineering at good
salaries.
> >> >
> >> >2 years is a pretty long time to be without a salary, don't you think.
> >> >
> >> >The downturn in 1980 was the first in my working life. An engineer in
> >> >his 60s told me that was the first time he ever saw graduate grade
> >> >engineers out of work in the UK. He said that jobs had always been
> >> >unstable, with big projects dying and laying off. However, there had
> >> >always been other jobs to go to. 1980 left some good engineers out of
> >> >work for a while. 1991/2 was worse. This time looks fairly nasty, with
> >> >early retirements absorbing a lot of the headcount reduction. Are
> >> >these cycles getting bigger and bigger, or is this just bad luck?
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Steve
> >
> >

Was that intended to be a serious comment? Working in MacDonalds may
be an option for a single desperate fresh grad. For someone a little
older with a family, living even the most modest way of life, a job at
MacDonalds won't pay the bills. I saw my income halve last year, and
that was tough to face. I would have to see my family fall apart and
be left alone and homeless before working in MacDonalds could cover my
bills. This is no exaggeration.

Regards,
Steve


nobody@nowhere.nothing wrote in message news:<I1wrb.2401$pE3.471@twister.socal.rr.com>...
> Didn't try MacDonald's, I bet.
> 
> In article <bolu9j$5o2$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, "Dirk Bell" <dirkman@erols.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> ><nobody@nowhere.nothing> wrote in message
> >news:uJtrb.124945$ZH4.70248@twister.socal.rr.com...
> >> Two years to get an engineering job.  Everyone who wanted a job could earn
>  a
> >> salary.
> >
> >That is not true this time. I know experienced people with graduate degrees
> >who were out of work 17 months, 13 months, 6 months, ... all of who finally
> >took the first job offered. All of these people had also applied for
> >significantly lower paying jobs (that payed more than unemployment
> >benefits), both in engineering and in other fields, and none were
> >successful.
> >
> >Dirk A. Bell
> >DSP Consultant
> >
> >>
> >> In article <80bddbd7.0311090736.7bbf8b3a@posting.google.com>,
> >> steveu@coppice.org (Steve Underwood) wrote:
> >> >nobody@nowhere.nothing wrote in message
> >> > news:<8C_qb.57690$Ub4.53506@twister.socal.rr.com>...
> >> >> 1.  Write a more general resume that mentions you experience in DSP
>  firmware
> >> >> and speech but points in a more general direction.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.  Look at the web pages of companies producing products in which you
>  would
> >> >> be interested.  These also frequently have areas that discuss job
> >> >> possibilities.
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.  It may take some time to find a job.  Around 1970, there was a
>  dearth of
> >> >> engineering jobs.  I was in college at that time and people frequently
> >> >> expressed sympathy when told I was an engineering student.  I had two
>  dozen
> >> >> interviews and several job offers when I graduated in 75 and got a job
>  I have
>  
> >> >> enjoyed and still enjoy.  Even at the worst of that time, engineers
>  were able
>  
> >> >> to get jobs within a couple of years in engineering at good salaries.
> >> >
> >> >2 years is a pretty long time to be without a salary, don't you think.
> >> >
> >> >The downturn in 1980 was the first in my working life. An engineer in
> >> >his 60s told me that was the first time he ever saw graduate grade
> >> >engineers out of work in the UK. He said that jobs had always been
> >> >unstable, with big projects dying and laying off. However, there had
> >> >always been other jobs to go to. 1980 left some good engineers out of
> >> >work for a while. 1991/2 was worse. This time looks fairly nasty, with
> >> >early retirements absorbing a lot of the headcount reduction. Are
> >> >these cycles getting bigger and bigger, or is this just bad luck?
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Steve
> >
> >