How to eliminate vocal from a mono recording?

Is there any equipment that can eliminate all vocals, kicks, spikes,
clicks, snares, hiss, saxophones, drums, and leads by recognizing
their waveforms rather than removing the central channel of a
recording?

Current "voice cancellors" work by ridding the whatever is identical
in both right and left. This would not eliminate vocals if they were
recorded differently in the right and left channels.

I have heard of voice recognition software. Probably wouldn't help
with music though.

My old Kenwood home-theater amp has a Kareoke mode, which is actually
quite good at removing vocals from music.

It works best with female voices though.

I believe it is a program for the built-in DSP that does the
filtering.

Thomas

Thomas Tornblom <thomas@Hax.SE.remove-to-reply> wrote in message news:<x0isn8lrig.fsf@Hax.SE.remove-to-reply>...
> My old Kenwood home-theater amp has a Kareoke mode, which is actually
> quite good at removing vocals from music.
> 
> It works best with female voices though.
> 
> I believe it is a program for the built-in DSP that does the
> filtering.
> 
> Thomas

Would it be able to eliminate the kicks, spikes, clicks, snares, hiss,
saxophones, drums, and leads as well?

I would like to eliminate all vocals, kicks, spikes, clicks, snares,
hiss, saxophones, drums, and leads from my following CD collection of
songs:

1. The Perfect Fan - Backstreet Boys
2. Drowning - Backstreet Boys
3. I Want It That Way - Backstreet Boys
4. We Live - Bosson
5. Where Are You - Bosson
6. One In a Million - Bosson
7. Drops of Jupiter - Train
8. Online Songs - Blink 182
9. The Rock Show - Blink 182
10. All The Small Things - Blink 182
11. One More Night - Phil Collins
12. Another Day In Paradise - Phil Collins

Basically I would like to keep in these songs, only the painos,
guitars, and synth pads. Then make the volume of the synth pads the
loudest and decrease the painos and guitars to the point where they
can still be heard without overriding the synth pads.

glucegen@excite.com (Radium) wrote in message news:<464c821f.0310012018.5eb76ca9@posting.google.com>...
> Thomas Tornblom <thomas@Hax.SE.remove-to-reply> wrote in message news:<x0isn8lrig.fsf@Hax.SE.remove-to-reply>...
> > My old Kenwood home-theater amp has a Kareoke mode, which is actually
> > quite good at removing vocals from music.
> > 
> > It works best with female voices though.
> > 
> > I believe it is a program for the built-in DSP that does the
> > filtering.
> > 
> > Thomas
> 
> Would it be able to eliminate the kicks, spikes, clicks, snares, hiss,
> saxophones, drums, and leads as well?
> 
> I would like to eliminate all vocals, kicks, spikes, clicks, snares,
> hiss, saxophones, drums, and leads from my following CD collection of
> songs:
> 
> 1. The Perfect Fan - Backstreet Boys
> 2. Drowning - Backstreet Boys
> 3. I Want It That Way - Backstreet Boys
> 4. We Live - Bosson
> 5. Where Are You - Bosson
> 6. One In a Million - Bosson
> 7. Drops of Jupiter - Train
> 8. Online Songs - Blink 182
> 9. The Rock Show - Blink 182
> 10. All The Small Things - Blink 182
> 11. One More Night - Phil Collins
> 12. Another Day In Paradise - Phil Collins
> 
> Basically I would like to keep in these songs, only the painos,
> guitars, and synth pads. Then make the volume of the synth pads the
> loudest and decrease the painos and guitars to the point where they
> can still be heard without overriding the synth pads.

There is no machine or soft which can do that with any degree of
acceptable accuracy. The only way is to have some professional to
write down and record the tracks for you. I would recommend these guys
http://music-utilities.com/studio
they have lower price and better quality than any other place.
In 2-3 days they can do a song, the charge depends on how difficult
each song is. The resulting backing tracks will sound as close to the
original as possible...

glucegen@excite.com (Radium) wrote in message news:<464c821f.0310012018.5eb76ca9@posting.google.com>...

> 
> Basically I would like to keep in these songs, only the painos,
> guitars, and synth pads. Then make the volume of the synth pads the
> loudest and decrease the painos and guitars to the point where they
> can still be heard without overriding the synth pads.

Buy midi files of these tunes, put them in a sequencer, mute the parts
you don't want etc. Play through a decent module or soundcard.

Software to do what you want may be *possible*, but it is in its
infancy.

Alex

glucegen@excite.com (Radium) writes:

> Thomas Tornblom <thomas@Hax.SE.remove-to-reply> wrote in message news:<x0isn8lrig.fsf@Hax.SE.remove-to-reply>...
> > My old Kenwood home-theater amp has a Kareoke mode, which is actually
> > quite good at removing vocals from music.
> > 
> > It works best with female voices though.
> > 
> > I believe it is a program for the built-in DSP that does the
> > filtering.
> > 
> > Thomas
> 
> Would it be able to eliminate the kicks, spikes, clicks, snares, hiss,
> saxophones, drums, and leads as well?

No, the mode is not adjustable.

There are two settings for the function

1) to remove (as good as it can) the vocals entirely
2) to remove the vocals while the mic input is active, while passing it 
   through when the input is silent. (fill in mode)

> 
> I would like to eliminate all vocals, kicks, spikes, clicks, snares,
> hiss, saxophones, drums, and leads from my following CD collection of
> songs:
> 
> 1. The Perfect Fan - Backstreet Boys
> 2. Drowning - Backstreet Boys
> 3. I Want It That Way - Backstreet Boys
> 4. We Live - Bosson
> 5. Where Are You - Bosson
> 6. One In a Million - Bosson
> 7. Drops of Jupiter - Train
> 8. Online Songs - Blink 182
> 9. The Rock Show - Blink 182
> 10. All The Small Things - Blink 182
> 11. One More Night - Phil Collins
> 12. Another Day In Paradise - Phil Collins
> 
> Basically I would like to keep in these songs, only the painos,
> guitars, and synth pads. Then make the volume of the synth pads the
> loudest and decrease the painos and guitars to the point where they
> can still be heard without overriding the synth pads.

Nope, won't work with this one.

I've only used the feature once, when my daughter and some of her
friends were singing to some (Madonna?) song, and I crafted a cassette 
for them.

Thomas

>Is there any equipment that can eliminate all vocals, kicks, spikes,
>clicks, snares, hiss, saxophones, drums, and leads by recognizing
>their waveforms rather than removing the central channel of a
>recording?
>
>Current "voice cancellors" work by ridding the whatever is identical
>in both right and left. This would not eliminate vocals if they were
>recorded differently in the right and left channels.
>
>I have heard of voice recognition software. Probably wouldn't help
>with music though.

No.

Computers are good at analysis of complex data.  I wouldn't be
surprised if they do this someday.  But we're nowhere near it yet.

On some of the music groups you find people who religiously believe
that this will NEVER be possible, and get quite upset if you suggest
it might.  Strange :-)

Removing vocals/leads from mono CAN be done to a reasonable degree
see www.csp-audio.com/vocalremoval.htm
We have examples proving it!

But what you're asking for is pretty much (still) impossible, sorry

Matt
CSP Audio

Radium <glucegen@excite.com> wrote in message
news:464c821f.0310011041.38b9bfdb@posting.google.com...
> Is there any equipment that can eliminate all vocals, kicks, spikes,
> clicks, snares, hiss, saxophones, drums, and leads by recognizing
> their waveforms rather than removing the central channel of a
> recording?
>
> Current "voice cancellors" work by ridding the whatever is identical
> in both right and left. This would not eliminate vocals if they were
> recorded differently in the right and left channels.
>
> I have heard of voice recognition software. Probably wouldn't help
> with music though.

Strange indeed!

www.csp-audio.com

Laurence Payne <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> On some of the music groups you find people who religiously believe
> that this will NEVER be possible, and get quite upset if you suggest
> it might.  Strange :-)

"CSP Audio" <info@csp-audio.com> writes:
> Strange indeed!
> 
> www.csp-audio.com

Dear god, fire your web designer immediately. 

Download the Mozilla browser from mozilla.org (it's what modern
Netscape is based on) and have a look to see how it's HORRIBLY and I
mean HORRIBLY broken.

Even if you schlep down to IE, you find sterling examples of "mystery
meat" navigation, "eye candy" design, and senseless use of pop-ups.

This is the worst web site I've seen in 2 years.   Yow.   But enjoy
the increase in traffic you'll get from people going to see how
hideous it is.  

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