Plural Hertz.

Richard Owlett wrote:

   ...

> Lorgnettes can be for one or two eyes. See
> www.ibelgique.ifrance.com/photocam/3dview.htm
> and
> www.oneofakindantiques.com/catalog/2693_antique_14_karat_gold_lorgnette_1.htm 

Thanks! I learn something new very often.

Can someone with a monocle in each eye be said to have a binocle? :^)

Jerry
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Rune Allnor wrote:

>  
> Which reminds me, is 'data' singular or plural? 
> 

"datum" singular
"data"  plural
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Piergiorgio Sartor wrote:

> Jerry Avins wrote:
> 
>>> Which reminds me, is 'data' singular or plural? 
>>
>>
>>
>> Plural. And don't you forget it! :-)
> 
> 
> BTW, also "people" is plural, isn't it?
> 
> bye,
> 

No. Collective noun. Takes singular madifier and/or verb.

Piergiorgio Sartor wrote:

> Jerry Avins wrote:
> 
>> That's a damnable trick question if the answer counts for something. A
>> fire engine is allowed to break any traffic law if that is necessary for
>> fighting a fire (and safe for bystanders). A question on an exam for
>> fire lieutenant: "What piece of fire apparatus can't go the wrong way on
>> a one-way street?" Someone who answered "A fire boat" was marked wrong.
>> Book answer: "None." He sued and got his lieutenancy. The court ruled
>> that the difference between "can" and "may" made the applicant's answer
>> the only correct one.
> 
> 
> I'm always astonished by this kind of exam questions.
> 
> I mean, the answer given is not wrong, it's only
> different from the expected one and shows how stupid
> was who made the question... :-)
> 

If this was New York State in 1960's I suspect both judge and respondent 
were wrong.

The route to/from emergency is declared a "fire lane" on authority of 
the "fire chief". Emergency vehicles have full access to any "fire 
lane". A "fire lane" is no longer a public highway. Not to say if 
something goes wrong, the chief may not have a lot of explaining to do.

*GIVE WAY TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES NO MATTER WHAT*

OK, this is hot-button issue for me as I was riding in jump-seat of 
responding pumper ( carrying 500 Gal water) when broad sided by Falcon 
that didn't think he had to yield. Guess who lost?

OK I'll simmer down a little

Richard Owlett wrote:

> Piergiorgio Sartor wrote:
> 
>> Jerry Avins wrote:
>>
>>> That's a damnable trick question if the answer counts for something. A
>>> fire engine is allowed to break any traffic law if that is necessary for
>>> fighting a fire (and safe for bystanders). A question on an exam for
>>> fire lieutenant: "What piece of fire apparatus can't go the wrong way on
>>> a one-way street?" Someone who answered "A fire boat" was marked wrong.
>>> Book answer: "None." He sued and got his lieutenancy. The court ruled
>>> that the difference between "can" and "may" made the applicant's answer
>>> the only correct one.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm always astonished by this kind of exam questions.
>>
>> I mean, the answer given is not wrong, it's only
>> different from the expected one and shows how stupid
>> was who made the question... :-)
>>
> 
> If this was New York State in 1960's I suspect both judge and respondent 
> were wrong.
> 
> The route to/from emergency is declared a "fire lane" on authority of 
> the "fire chief". Emergency vehicles have full access to any "fire 
> lane". A "fire lane" is no longer a public highway. Not to say if 
> something goes wrong, the chief may not have a lot of explaining to do.
> 
> *GIVE WAY TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES NO MATTER WHAT*
> 
> OK, this is hot-button issue for me as I was riding in jump-seat of 
> responding pumper ( carrying 500 Gal water) when broad sided by Falcon 
> that didn't think he had to yield. Guess who lost?
> 
> OK I'll simmer down a little

Do you mean to write that a fire boat can travel on any street at all? 
Those things are as big as a large tug and draw as much water.

Jerry
-- 
... they proceeded on the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie
always contains a certain factor of credibility, ... and that therefor
... they more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a little one ...
                                                                   A. H.
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Jerry Avins wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
>> Piergiorgio Sartor wrote:
>>
>>> Jerry Avins wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's a damnable trick question if the answer counts for something. A
>>>> fire engine is allowed to break any traffic law if that is necessary 
>>>> for
>>>> fighting a fire (and safe for bystanders). A question on an exam for
>>>> fire lieutenant: "What piece of fire apparatus can't go the wrong 
>>>> way on
>>>> a one-way street?" Someone who answered "A fire boat" was marked wrong.
>>>> Book answer: "None." He sued and got his lieutenancy. The court ruled
>>>> that the difference between "can" and "may" made the applicant's answer
>>>> the only correct one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm always astonished by this kind of exam questions.
>>>
>>> I mean, the answer given is not wrong, it's only
>>> different from the expected one and shows how stupid
>>> was who made the question... :-)
>>>
>>
>> If this was New York State in 1960's I suspect both judge and 
>> respondent were wrong.
>>
>> The route to/from emergency is declared a "fire lane" on authority of 
>> the "fire chief". Emergency vehicles have full access to any "fire 
>> lane". A "fire lane" is no longer a public highway. Not to say if 
>> something goes wrong, the chief may not have a lot of explaining to do.
>>
>> *GIVE WAY TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES NO MATTER WHAT*
>>
>> OK, this is hot-button issue for me as I was riding in jump-seat of 
>> responding pumper ( carrying 500 Gal water) when broad sided by Falcon 
>> that didn't think he had to yield. Guess who lost?
>>
>> OK I'll simmer down a little
> 
> 
> Do you mean to write that a fire boat can travel on any street at all? 
> Those things are as big as a large tug and draw as much water.
> 
> Jerry

Ooopps ;)

JA and RA wrotes (again!) [Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:46:42 -0400]:
 >>>>What should you always have over your car?
 >>>What?
 >> 'Control'. Persistent rumours indicate that this question (it works in 
 >> Norwegian, I don't know if the preposition 'over' is correct in 
 >> English), formulated exactly as above, was given during an examination 
 >> for the driver's licence some time during the 1960ies. I haven't been 
 >> able to find confirmations, though.
 >
 >That's a damnable trick question if the answer counts for something. A
 >fire engine is allowed to break any traffic law if that is necessary for
 >fighting a fire (and safe for bystanders). A question on an exam for
 >fire lieutenant: "What piece of fire apparatus can't go the wrong way on
 >a one-way street?" Someone who answered "A fire boat" was marked wrong.
 >Book answer: "None." He sued and got his lieutenancy. The court ruled
 >that the difference between "can" and "may" made the applicant's answer
 >the only correct one.

... while only 5 short months ago, JA and RA has this to say:

From: JA
Subject: Re: Non-technical Anecdotes:There are idiots everywhere. HELP! 
Newsgroups: comp.dsp
Date: 2004-05-03 10:19:20 PST 

RA:
   ...

> BTW, there is an old joke about a question that supposedly were given
> on a Norwegian exam for the driver's licence: 
> 
> Q: "What should you always have over your car?" 
> 
> Candidates tried all kinds of guesses, "roof", "tarpaulin", "free space"...
> the answer was supposed to be "control". Yep, it's as lame in Norwegian 
> as it is in English. 

Emergency vehicles are permitted by law to go anywhere at the driver's
discretion. In an exam for Lieutenant in the NY City fire department, a
question read, "What piece of fire apparatus can not go the wrong way on
a one-way street?" The expected answer was "none:. One applicant wrote
"a fire boat" and was marked wrong, losing just enough credit to fail
the test. He sued, claiming not only that his answer was correct, but
that "none" was wrong. The word in the question was not "may", but
"can". His credit was restored and he got his promotion, but the others
retained their credit.

(Waiting for the manual/auto transmission thing to come back around?)

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Richard Owlett wrote:

> No. Collective noun. Takes singular madifier and/or verb.

But the song says "people are strange"...

bye,

-- 
   Piergiorgio Sartor

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:49:30 -0400, Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:

>Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>   ...
>
>> Lorgnettes can be for one or two eyes. See
>> www.ibelgique.ifrance.com/photocam/3dview.htm
>> and
>> www.oneofakindantiques.com/catalog/2693_antique_14_karat_gold_lorgnette_1.htm 
>
>Thanks! I learn something new very often.
>
>Can someone with a monocle in each eye be said to have a binocle? :^)
>
>Jerry

Give him some cards and he can play pinocle.

Eric Jacobsen
Minister of Algorithms, Intel Corp.
My opinions may not be Intel's opinions.
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On 2004-09-26 21:05:24 +0200, allnor@tele.ntnu.no (Rune Allnor) said:

> Jerry Avins wrote:
>> One cycle per second is one Hertz. Is two cycles per second two 
>> Hertzes? If not, why not?
>> 
>> Because "Hertz" is a name, and I think even not an english
>> name, so you cannot freely pluralize it.
> 
> I'm not so sure. I think 'hertz' in German also means 'heart'. Hey, 
> I've never seen that one before! I don't remember much German, but I 
> thing that makes the plural "viele Hertzen"...

Not quite: it's "Herz" (without the "t").
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