Hi Clay, On the Internet I ran across what is called the "three body problem." I read that, so far, no one has solved that problem. Clay, when you have nothing better to do it might be nice if you solved that "three body problem." (Maybe scratch out a solution on the back of a paper napkin the next time you're sitting in a Starbuck's.) Surely your solution would be of interest to several people. [-Rick-]
OT: A suggestion for Clay Turner
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Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> writes:> Hi Clay, > On the Internet I ran across what is called the > "three body problem."Rick, Isn't there a C&W song about this topic? -- Randy Yates Digital Signal Labs http://www.digitalsignallabs.com
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:15:14 -0700, Rick Lyons wrote:> Hi Clay, > On the Internet I ran across what is called the > "three body problem." I read that, so far, no one has solved that > problem. Clay, when you have nothing better to do it might be nice if > you solved that "three body problem." (Maybe scratch out a solution on > the back of a paper napkin the next time you're sitting in a > Starbuck's.) Surely your solution would be of interest to several > people. > > [-Rick-]Are we talking the three body problem for murderers for hire, polygamists, or something more boring? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com
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On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:15:14 AM UTC-4, Rick Lyons wrote:> Hi Clay, > > On the Internet I ran across what is called the > > "three body problem." I read that, so far, no one > > has solved that problem. Clay, when you have > > nothing better to do it might be nice if you > > solved that "three body problem." (Maybe scratch out > > a solution on the back of a paper napkin the next > > time you're sitting in a Starbuck's.) Surely > > your solution would be of interest to several people. > > > > [-Rick-]Funny Rick! Seeing as how I don't "do" coffee, I'm not likely to be in a Starbuck's anytime soon. Restricted versions have been solved, but the general problem is open. Perhaps one day! LOL! Clay
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On 7/17/13 8:20 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:15:14 -0700, Rick Lyons wrote: > >> Hi Clay, >> On the Internet I ran across what is called the >> "three body problem." I read that, so far, no one has solved that >> problem. Clay, when you have nothing better to do it might be nice if >> you solved that "three body problem." (Maybe scratch out a solution on >> the back of a paper napkin the next time you're sitting in a >> Starbuck's.) Surely your solution would be of interest to several >> people. >> >> [-Rick-] > > Are we talking the three body problem for murderers for hire, > polygamists, or something more boring? >it's a physics problem for contract killers (or i s'pose polygamists). contract killers already know how to put two bodies in orbit around each other. adding the third body screws things up, unless the third body is so much smaller than the other two that the other two are virtually unaffected by the third. dunno how polygamists get their 2 or 3 bodies into orbit without killing them. the contract killers don't worry about that. -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:15:14 -0700, Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_BOGUS_ieee.org> wrote:> >Hi Clay, > On the Internet I ran across what is called the >"three body problem." I read that, so far, no one >has solved that problem. Clay, when you have >nothing better to do it might be nice if you >solved that "three body problem." (Maybe scratch out >a solution on the back of a paper napkin the next >time you're sitting in a Starbuck's.) Surely >your solution would be of interest to several people. > >[-Rick-]I've always been told that adding the third body cost extra. Eric Jacobsen Anchor Hill Communications http://www.anchorhill.com
Reply by ●July 17, 20132013-07-17
Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_bogus_ieee.org> wrote:> Hi Clay, > On the Internet I ran across what is called the > "three body problem." I read that, so far, no one > has solved that problem. Clay, when you have > nothing better to do it might be nice if you > solved that "three body problem."Well, there is also a book called "The Millennium Problem" which has seven unsolved math problems with a million dollar rewared for a successful solution to any of them. Strangely, it seems to be from the Clay Mathematics Institute, so maybe Clay already knows about that one. -- glen
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glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> writes:> Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_bogus_ieee.org> wrote: > >> Hi Clay, >> On the Internet I ran across what is called the >> "three body problem." I read that, so far, no one >> has solved that problem. Clay, when you have >> nothing better to do it might be nice if you >> solved that "three body problem." > > Well, there is also a book called "The Millennium Problem" > which has seven unsolved math problems with a million dollar > rewared for a successful solution to any of them.The Poincare Conjecture has been solved: http://www.claymath.org/poincare/continuation.html I only understand about 1/137th (get it, Clay?) of this but it makes my mind boggle.> Strangely, it seems to be from the Clay Mathematics > Institute, so maybe Clay already knows about that one.Ha!> > -- glenThanks for that, glen! -- Randy Yates Digital Signal Labs http://www.digitalsignallabs.com
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On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:15:40 PM UTC-4, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:> Rick Lyons <R.Lyons@_bogus_ieee.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi Clay, > > > On the Internet I ran across what is called the > > > "three body problem." I read that, so far, no one > > > has solved that problem. Clay, when you have > > > nothing better to do it might be nice if you > > > solved that "three body problem." > > > > Well, there is also a book called "The Millennium Problem" > > which has seven unsolved math problems with a million dollar > > rewared for a successful solution to any of them. > > > > Strangely, it seems to be from the Clay Mathematics > > Institute, so maybe Clay already knows about that one. > > > > -- glenHi Glen, I do know about the Clay Institute and still I'm not a millionaire. I'm no relation to them though! Some of my colleagues have worked on some restricted 3 body cases for orbiting stars inside of galaxies. I've done some work with binary (multiple) star systems. Once they become hierarchical, they become essentially Kepler systems and easy to deal with. The nonheirarchical ones are more difficult and are sometimes unstable. The general 3 body problem admits chaotic solutions and that is a major source of difficulty. This is covered in Goldstein's tome "Classical Mechanics." I bet you have a copy. lol! Clay
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clay@claysturner.com wrote: (snip)> Some of my colleagues have worked on some restricted 3 body > cases for orbiting stars inside of galaxies.(snip)> The nonheirarchical ones are more difficult and are sometimes > unstable. The general 3 body problem admits chaotic solutions > and that is a major source of difficulty.> This is covered in Goldstein's tome "Classical Mechanics." > I bet you have a copy. lol!I used to have one. I haven't looked at it for a while, though. -- glen
