I am studying on equalization for Frequency Shift Keying. I want to know if following paper can be used for equalization of FSK system "Self-Recovering Equalization and Carrier Tracking in Two-Dimensional Data Communication Systems " http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1094608&tag=1 Data rate 500kbps, four FSK system. --ML _____________________________ Posted through www.DSPRelated.com
Multipath ISI removal
Started by ●May 9, 2014
Reply by ●May 10, 20142014-05-10
On Fri, 09 May 2014 00:16:36 -0500, mite_learner wrote:> I am studying on equalization for Frequency Shift Keying. I want to know > if following paper can be used for equalization of FSK system > > "Self-Recovering Equalization and Carrier Tracking in Two-Dimensional > Data Communication Systems " > > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1094608&tag=1 > > Data rate 500kbps, four FSK system.The reason no one is answering you is that we'd either have to have read the paper already, or we'd have to go read it. There's LOTS of papers out there, because in a lot of universities professors have to publish to keep their jobs. Many of these papers (particularly if they were originally for a conference, and not a journal) don't really add much to the body of knowledge. Unless the paper really makes things clear, I'd get a book on the subject and start with that. Alternately, see if you can get access to the ISI citation database (if you're at a university, or if there's a university library within reach you can try there). Check to see how many times the paper has been cited -- if it's not often cited, and if you can't make heads or tails of it, then it's probably garbage. Another alternative -- actually, something that's always a good idea -- is to look through the bibliography for the paper you're reading. In such papers the older bibliographic entries are often the seminal works -- the "classics" in their field. Also, there are often one or two papers that are obviously tutorial or more direct in their nature. When you're doing something like this for the first time, you don't want a paper that's covering some obscure corner of the field: you want a unified description of the whole thing, so that you can do what's routine and known. -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by ●May 10, 20142014-05-10
Laughing out loud... if this weren't usenet, the above post should be made a sticky :-) _____________________________ Posted through www.DSPRelated.com
Reply by ●May 11, 20142014-05-11
On Friday, May 9, 2014 5:16:36 PM UTC+12, mite_learner wrote:> I am studying on equalization for Frequency Shift Keying. I want to know if > > following paper can be used for equalization of FSK system > > > > "Self-Recovering Equalization and Carrier Tracking in Two-Dimensional Data > > Communication Systems " > > > > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1094608&tag=1 > > > > Data rate 500kbps, four FSK system. > > > > > > --ML > > > > _____________________________ > > Posted through www.DSPRelated.comI could email it to you if you email me first
Reply by ●May 11, 20142014-05-11
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:09:21 AM UTC+12, Tim Wescott wrote:> On Fri, 09 May 2014 00:16:36 -0500, mite_learner wrote: > > > > > I am studying on equalization for Frequency Shift Keying. I want to know > > > if following paper can be used for equalization of FSK system > > > > > > "Self-Recovering Equalization and Carrier Tracking in Two-Dimensional > > > Data Communication Systems " > > > > > > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1094608&tag=1 > > > > > > Data rate 500kbps, four FSK system. > > > > The reason no one is answering you is that we'd either have to have read > > the paper already, or we'd have to go read it. There's LOTS of papers > > out there, because in a lot of universities professors have to publish to > > keep their jobs. Many of these papers (particularly if they were > > originally for a conference, and not a journal) don't really add much to > > the body of knowledge. > > > > Unless the paper really makes things clear, I'd get a book on the subject > > and start with that. > > > > Alternately, see if you can get access to the ISI citation database (if > > you're at a university, or if there's a university library within reach > > you can try there). Check to see how many times the paper has been cited > > -- if it's not often cited, and if you can't make heads or tails of it, > > then it's probably garbage. > > > > Another alternative -- actually, something that's always a good idea -- > > is to look through the bibliography for the paper you're reading. In > > such papers the older bibliographic entries are often the seminal works > > -- the "classics" in their field. Also, there are often one or two > > papers that are obviously tutorial or more direct in their nature. > > > > When you're doing something like this for the first time, you don't want > > a paper that's covering some obscure corner of the field: you want a > > unified description of the whole thing, so that you can do what's routine > > and known. > > > > -- > > Tim Wescott > > Control system and signal processing consulting > > www.wescottdesign.comThat's an IEEE Coms transactions paper - won't be rubbish.
Reply by ●May 11, 20142014-05-11
On 5/11/14 12:12 AM, gyansorova@gmail.com wrote:> > That's an IEEE Coms transactions paper - won't be rubbish.no IEEE Transactions are rubbish? -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
Reply by ●May 11, 20142014-05-11
On Monday, May 12, 2014 1:29:59 AM UTC+12, robert bristow-johnson wrote:> On 5/11/14 12:12 AM, gyansorova@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > That's an IEEE Coms transactions paper - won't be rubbish. > > > > no IEEE Transactions are rubbish? > >They can be irrelevant but full Transactions papers are rarely if ever rubbish. very hard to get published.
Reply by ●May 11, 20142014-05-11
On 5/11/14 3:49 PM, gyansorova@gmail.com wrote:> On Monday, May 12, 2014 1:29:59 AM UTC+12, robert bristow-johnson wrote: >> On 5/11/14 12:12 AM, gyansorova@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> >> >>> That's an IEEE Coms transactions paper - won't be rubbish. >> >> >> >> no IEEE Transactions are rubbish? >> >> > > They can be irrelevant but full Transactions papers are rarely if ever rubbish.so, how many irrelevant objects are there in your life that are not rubbish?> very hard to get published.that may be, but there are lotsa reasons IEEE Transactions are so exclusive (but as each new Transaction is created, it becomes less so), and not all have to do with the quality of scholarship. there's a lotta mutual backscratching among academics going on there. -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
Reply by ●May 12, 20142014-05-12
>On Fri, 09 May 2014 00:16:36 -0500, mite_learner wrote: > >> I am studying on equalization for Frequency Shift Keying. I want toknow>> if following paper can be used for equalization of FSK system >> >> "Self-Recovering Equalization and Carrier Tracking in Two-Dimensional >> Data Communication Systems " >> >> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1094608&tag=1 >> >> Data rate 500kbps, four FSK system. > >The reason no one is answering you is that we'd either have to have read >the paper already, or we'd have to go read it. There's LOTS of papers >out there, because in a lot of universities professors have to publish to>keep their jobs. Many of these papers (particularly if they were >originally for a conference, and not a journal) don't really add much to >the body of knowledge. > >Unless the paper really makes things clear, I'd get a book on the subject>and start with that. >Thanks for your reply, can you please suggest me some book(s)/tutorial that covers equalization for FSK system and implementation. --\ ML>Alternately, see if you can get access to the ISI citation database (if >you're at a university, or if there's a university library within reach >you can try there). Check to see how many times the paper has been cited>-- if it's not often cited, and if you can't make heads or tails of it, >then it's probably garbage. > >Another alternative -- actually, something that's always a good idea -- >is to look through the bibliography for the paper you're reading. In >such papers the older bibliographic entries are often the seminal works >-- the "classics" in their field. Also, there are often one or two >papers that are obviously tutorial or more direct in their nature. > >When you're doing something like this for the first time, you don't want >a paper that's covering some obscure corner of the field: you want a >unified description of the whole thing, so that you can do what's routine>and known. > >-- >Tim Wescott >Control system and signal processing consulting >www.wescottdesign.com >_____________________________ Posted through www.DSPRelated.com
Reply by ●May 12, 20142014-05-12
On Friday, May 9, 2014 1:16:36 AM UTC-4, mite_learner wrote:> I am studying on equalization for Frequency Shift Keying. I want to know if > following paper can be used for equalization of FSK system >Before I invest more time in trying to help you, what is the context in which you are asking for help? Are you doing a homework assignment? A project for a class? Project for a job?> "Self-Recovering Equalization and Carrier Tracking in Two-Dimensional Data > Communication Systems " > > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1094608&tag=1 >Can I ask why you chose a paper from 1980 that has everything to do with QAM and nothing to do with FSK? And really nothing to do with the four FSK system you mention below?> Data rate 500kbps, four FSK system.Is this based on an existing commercial system, if so, which one. Do you have control over the modulation? Coherent FSK or non-coherent? What's the tone spacing? What is the environment for which this system is supposed to work? When you say you have ISI, how much exactly? What's the profile, does it change much? How do you know you are limited by ISI and not by other factors? On which platform do you intend to implement the receiver? Regards, Julius
