John Larkin wrote:> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:46:26 -0600, Richard Owlett > <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote: > > >>Clarence_A wrote: >> >>>"Tim Wescott" <tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote in message >>>news:10u30t54ccv3u71@corp.supernews.com... >>> >>> >>>>I'll be delivering two presentations -- PID Without a PhD, and >>> >>>Basic >>> >>> >>>>Control Theory for Software Engineers. More details at >>>>http://www.esconline.com/sf/index.htm. >>>> >>>>This being the ESC, they've put the advanced class before the >>>>prerequisite -- oh well. >>>> >>> >>> >>>Why do they always have the ESC in San Francisco? >>>I can't go there, and wouldn't if I could. >>>The Anaheim Convention center site would be a better choice! >>>Or even Los Vegas! >>> >> >>Branson, MO a better choice. >>More central location. >>Better scenery. >>Less traffic. >>I'd only have to drive 1/2 hour ;) >> > > > > Why not Aspen? > > John >Too much snow ;]
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John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> writes:> Richard Owlett <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote: > >Branson, MO a better choice. > >More central location. > >Better scenery. > >Less traffic. > >I'd only have to drive 1/2 hour ;) > > Why not Aspen?Very good suggestion! There's plenty of parking for your personal jet. Be very careful with the approach if the weather is bad. Don't have a personal jet? You can't afford Aspen.
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:40:19 PST, mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com (Everett M. Greene) wrote:>John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> writes: >> Richard Owlett <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote: >> >Branson, MO a better choice. >> >More central location. >> >Better scenery. >> >Less traffic. >> >I'd only have to drive 1/2 hour ;) >> >> Why not Aspen? > >Very good suggestion! There's plenty of parking for >your personal jet. Be very careful with the approach >if the weather is bad. > >Don't have a personal jet? You can't afford Aspen.Ever fly into Aspen? You take a ratty turboprop from Denver. On the approach, you look out the windows of the plane and see solid rock walls on both sides. Almost as much fun as Los Alamos, where the runway ends at the end of the mesa. John
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John Larkin wrote:> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:40:19 PST, mojaveg@mojaveg.iwvisp.com (Everett > M. Greene) wrote: > > >>John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> writes: >> >>>Richard Owlett <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote: >>> >>>>Branson, MO a better choice. >>>>More central location. >>>>Better scenery. >>>>Less traffic. >>>>I'd only have to drive 1/2 hour ;) >>> >>>Why not Aspen? >> >>Very good suggestion! There's plenty of parking for >>your personal jet. Be very careful with the approach >>if the weather is bad. >> >>Don't have a personal jet? You can't afford Aspen. > > > > Ever fly into Aspen? You take a ratty turboprop from Denver. On the > approach, you look out the windows of the plane and see solid rock > walls on both sides. Almost as much fun as Los Alamos, where the > runway ends at the end of the mesa. > > JohnMy first view of the Tetons was flying into Jackson Hole. You head straight into a granite block that towers a mile above the runway. At what turns out in retrospect to have been a respectable distance, the plane makes a hard right and runs parallel to it as it settles down. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●January 13, 20052005-01-13
Jerry Avins wrote:> John Larkin wrote: >... snip ...>> >> Ever fly into Aspen? You take a ratty turboprop from Denver. On the >> approach, you look out the windows of the plane and see solid rock >> walls on both sides. Almost as much fun as Los Alamos, where the >> runway ends at the end of the mesa. > > My first view of the Tetons was flying into Jackson Hole. You head > straight into a granite block that towers a mile above the runway. At > what turns out in retrospect to have been a respectable distance, the > plane makes a hard right and runs parallel to it as it settles down.I remember flying in and out of Albuquerque 40 odd years ago. First the pilot attempts to crash into this mountain, and at the last moment zooms over it and parks on the peak. When leaving, he just floors it until the ground disappears from under you, and after a few swoops and thermals the thing is airborn. -- Chuck F (cbfalconer@yahoo.com) (cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> USE worldnet address!
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Clarence_A wrote:> > Company will not pay for anything in the SF area, they say it is > too expensive. They will pay in Anaheim or LV! I've even been > allowed to book in Phoenix and Denver (Gun Barrel, CO). Just NOT > SF! > > No other explanation! > >When a conference was over in '93 I had my daughter come to SF and we stayed a few extra days. The concierge at the conference hotel recommended a place that was across the street from the old US Mint museum. The cost differential was astonishing. The second place seemed to cater to European tourist groups. It was a moderately old building (quaint) but it worked out just great for us. Good but inexpensive on-site restaurant, within a few blocks of the big conference hotels. Perhaps someone in the area knows the name, if it is still open, other basic recon. One heads up though. A few of the other places that seemed to offer low cost accomodations appeared to cater to men only.
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:35:50 -0600, Aubrey McIntosh <spam@spam04.vima.austin.tx.us> wrote:> > >Clarence_A wrote: > >> >> Company will not pay for anything in the SF area, they say it is >> too expensive. They will pay in Anaheim or LV! I've even been >> allowed to book in Phoenix and Denver (Gun Barrel, CO). Just NOT >> SF! >> >> No other explanation! >> >> > > >When a conference was over in '93 I had my daughter come to SF and we >stayed a few extra days. The concierge at the conference hotel >recommended a place that was across the street from the old US Mint museum. > >The cost differential was astonishing. The second place seemed to cater >to European tourist groups. It was a moderately old building (quaint) >but it worked out just great for us. Good but inexpensive on-site >restaurant, within a few blocks of the big conference hotels. > >Perhaps someone in the area knows the name, if it is still open, other >basic recon. > >One heads up though. A few of the other places that seemed to offer low >cost accomodations appeared to cater to men only. >I like to send people here: http://www.hotelres.com/hoteltop.php?siteid=47&hnum=367 around $60, or http://www.sealrockinn.com/ about $140 for an ocean-view suite with a fireplace. John
Reply by ●January 14, 20052005-01-14
"John Larkin" wrote> Aubrey McIntosh wrote: > >Clarence_A wrote: > >> > >> Company will not pay for anything in the SF area, they say itis> >> too expensive. They will pay in Anaheim or LV! I've evenbeen> >> allowed to book in Phoenix and Denver (Gun Barrel, CO). JustNOT> >> SF! > >> No other explanation! > > > >When a conference was over in '93 I had my daughter come to SFand we> >stayed a few extra days. The concierge at the conference hotel > >recommended a place that was across the street from the old USMint museum.> > > >The cost differential was astonishing. The second place seemedto cater> >to European tourist groups. It was a moderately old building(quaint)> >but it worked out just great for us. Good but inexpensiveon-site> >restaurant, within a few blocks of the big conference hotels. > > > >Perhaps someone in the area knows the name, if it is stillopen, other> >basic recon. > > > >One heads up though. A few of the other places that seemed tooffer low> >cost accommodations appeared to cater to men only. > > > I like to send people here: > http://www.hotelres.com/hoteltop.php?siteid=47&hnum=367 > around $60,I'll try this one. Maybe I 'can' go if I can prove it isn't as expensive as they think.> or > http://www.sealrockinn.com/ > about $140 for an ocean-view suite with a fireplace. > John
Reply by ●January 14, 20052005-01-14
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:43:39 GMT, "Clarence_A" <no@No.com> wrote:> >"John Larkin" wrote >> Aubrey McIntosh wrote: >> >Clarence_A wrote: >> >> >> >> Company will not pay for anything in the SF area, they say it >is >> >> too expensive. They will pay in Anaheim or LV! I've even >been >> >> allowed to book in Phoenix and Denver (Gun Barrel, CO). Just >NOT >> >> SF! >> >> No other explanation! >> > >> >When a conference was over in '93 I had my daughter come to SF >and we >> >stayed a few extra days. The concierge at the conference hotel >> >recommended a place that was across the street from the old US >Mint museum. >> > >> >The cost differential was astonishing. The second place seemed >to cater >> >to European tourist groups. It was a moderately old building >(quaint) >> >but it worked out just great for us. Good but inexpensive >on-site >> >restaurant, within a few blocks of the big conference hotels. >> > >> >Perhaps someone in the area knows the name, if it is still >open, other >> >basic recon. >> > >> >One heads up though. A few of the other places that seemed to >offer low >> >cost accommodations appeared to cater to men only. >> > >> I like to send people here: >> http://www.hotelres.com/hoteltop.php?siteid=47&hnum=367 >> around $60, > >I'll try this one. >Maybe I 'can' go if I can prove it isn't as expensive as they >think. > > > >> or >> http://www.sealrockinn.com/ >> about $140 for an ocean-view suite with a fireplace. >> John >It's clean but funky, like some small mom-and-pop motel you'd find in a small town somewhere. There's a streetcar stop just in front, which will take you downtown in a straight, but not too speedy, shot. It's just 2 blocks from the ocean, and just behind the Sloat Garden Center and a block from the famous Doggie Diner. http://mistersf.com/new/index.html?newdoggie.htm Call me if you feel like a beer. John
Reply by ●January 14, 20052005-01-14
"John Larkin" <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote in message news:b1sfu09jgt9t8gd06ui2rkqgtk5agnv8jc@4ax.com...> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:43:39 GMT, "Clarence_A" <no@No.com>wrote:> >"John Larkin" wrote > >> Aubrey McIntosh wrote: > >> >Clarence_A wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Company will not pay for anything in the SF area, they sayit> >> >> is too expensive. They will pay in Anaheim or LV! I'veeven> >> >> been allowed to book in Phoenix and Denver (Gun Barrel,CO).> >> >> Just NOT SF! No other explanation! > >> > > >> >When a conference was over in '93 I had my daughter come toSF> >> >and we > >> >stayed a few extra days. The concierge at the conferencehotel> >> >recommended a place that was across the street from the oldUS> >> >Mint museum. > >> > > >> >The cost differential was astonishing. The second placeseemed> >> >to cater > >> >to European tourist groups. It was a moderately oldbuilding> >> >(quaint) > >> >but it worked out just great for us. Good but inexpensive > >> >on-site > >> >restaurant, within a few blocks of the big conferencehotels.> >> > > >> >Perhaps someone in the area knows the name, if it is still > >> >open, other > >> >basic recon. > >> > > >> >One heads up though. A few of the other places that seemedto> >> >offer low > >> >cost accommodations appeared to cater to men only. > >> > > >> I like to send people here: > >> http://www.hotelres.com/hoteltop.php?siteid=47&hnum=367 > >> around $60, > > > >I'll try this one. > >Maybe I 'can' go if I can prove it isn't as expensive as they > >think. > > > >> or > >> http://www.sealrockinn.com/ > >> about $140 for an ocean-view suite with a fireplace. > >> John > > It's clean but funky, like some small mom-and-pop motel you'dfind in> a small town somewhere. There's a streetcar stop just in front,which> will take you downtown in a straight, but not too speedy, shot.It's> just 2 blocks from the ocean, and just behind the Sloat GardenCenter> and a block from the famous Doggie Diner. > > http://mistersf.com/new/index.html?newdoggie.htm > > Call me if you feel like a beer. > Johnmight do that if I get to go. Just heard we are starting a new contract for design of a system for a major new client. So it is going to be up in the air for a bit. Thanks again. A "Samuel Adams" would go down nicely! Clarence
