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Started by mackie ●January 26, 2005
Hi Bhaskar,

What do you mean with "rubber"? Some sort of souvenir?

I think this is a consequence of my not being a native english speaker.

Regards,

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Jaime Andr�s Aranguren Cardona
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SanJaaC Electronics
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"Bhaskar Thiagarajan" <bhaskart@deja.com> escribi&#4294967295; en el mensaje
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> "Ron Huizen" <rhuizen@bittware.com> wrote in message > news:10vi1jv29hq2g54@corp.supernews.com... > > <Snipped> > > > >> On our latest board family, the T2 (for TigerSharc 2), we combine 4 > > >> ------------ > > >> Ron Huizen > > >> BittWare > > Hey Ron > Do you guys have a rubber TigerSharc yet? It's been ages since I visited
you
> guys in a conference or something and haven't had a chance to add to my > (rubber) Sharc and Hammerhead collection. > > Cheers > Bhaskar > >
Ron Huizen wrote:
> I wrote: > > These chips emphasize CPU performance and on-chip memory at the > > expense of on-chip I/O, which is limited to the four link ports > > and the 64-bit local bus. > > When you say "at the expense of on-chip I/O" you must be meaning > variety (as in serial ports, etc) as opposed to bandwidth,
Yes, the expense I was referring to was chip area and pinout. There's definitely plenty of bandwidth; we'll probably only be hooking up 4 of the data lines of one link port to the FPGA, and that's still several orders of magnitude more throughput than we actually need for this particular application. I looked at your board (and several other similar ones), but it's way overkill for our application. We basically need the compute power of one TigerSharc and about 200 kB/sec aggregate I/O to eight serial interfaces of various types. -- Dave Tweed
"Jaime Andr&#4294967295;s Aranguren Cardona" <jaac@nospam.sanjaac.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Bhaskar, > > What do you mean with "rubber"? Some sort of souvenir?
Yes - some kind of souvenir - made out of some rubber like polymer.
> I think this is a consequence of my not being a native english speaker.
I'm not sure how this could factor in this instance.... However, let me share another 'rubber' story. Most people in India (possibly from the entire sub-continent) refer to the device used to erase writing made in pencil as 'rubber'. I don't know about other countries, but it's called 'eraser' in the US. If you said 'rubber' in the US, it will most certainly be interpreted as the slang for condom. An (Indian) acquaintance of mine came to the US to attend grad school several years ago. He was to work with a (lady) professor as a research assistant. During the first few weeks, I guess he was working on an assignment and needed to erase some of his work. He promptly went up to his professor (in the presence of several other students) and asked for a 'rubber'. Needless to say several minutes of confusion and embaressment traversed the room, with the professor repeatedly asking him to repeat his question...the poor guy couldn't believe his accent was that bad (until one of the other students was kind enough to explain the slang). Cheers Bhaskar
> > Regards, > > -- > Jaime Andr&#4294967295;s Aranguren Cardona > jaac@nospam.sanjaac.com > SanJaaC Electronics > Soluciones en DSP > www.sanjaac.com > > (Remove "nospam" from e-mail address) > > "Bhaskar Thiagarajan" <bhaskart@deja.com> escribi&#4294967295; en el mensaje > news:35socuF4m33kmU1@individual.net... > > "Ron Huizen" <rhuizen@bittware.com> wrote in message > > news:10vi1jv29hq2g54@corp.supernews.com... > > > > <Snipped> > > > > > >> On our latest board family, the T2 (for TigerSharc 2), we combine 4 > > > >> ------------ > > > >> Ron Huizen > > > >> BittWare > > > > Hey Ron > > Do you guys have a rubber TigerSharc yet? It's been ages since I visited > you > > guys in a conference or something and haven't had a chance to add to my > > (rubber) Sharc and Hammerhead collection. > > > > Cheers > > Bhaskar > > > > > >
Bhaskar Thiagarajan wrote:

> "Jaime Andr&#4294967295;s Aranguren Cardona" <jaac@nospam.sanjaac.com> wrote in message > news:1106868241.02458ac56322174af20df4da4c5a9285@teranews... > >>Hi Bhaskar, >> >>What do you mean with "rubber"? Some sort of souvenir? > > > Yes - some kind of souvenir - made out of some rubber like polymer. > > >>I think this is a consequence of my not being a native english speaker. > > > I'm not sure how this could factor in this instance.... > However, let me share another 'rubber' story. Most people in India (possibly > from the entire sub-continent) refer to the device used to erase writing > made in pencil as 'rubber'. I don't know about other countries, but it's > called 'eraser' in the US. If you said 'rubber' in the US, it will most > certainly be interpreted as the slang for condom. > An (Indian) acquaintance of mine came to the US to attend grad school > several years ago. He was to work with a (lady) professor as a research > assistant. During the first few weeks, I guess he was working on an > assignment and needed to erase some of his work. He promptly went up to his > professor (in the presence of several other students) and asked for a > 'rubber'. Needless to say several minutes of confusion and embaressment > traversed the room, with the professor repeatedly asking him to repeat his > question...the poor guy couldn't believe his accent was that bad (until one > of the other students was kind enough to explain the slang). > > Cheers > Bhaskar
Let me add a little. Here in the US, although usually in the plural, "rubber" also means overshoe. (Don't forget to wear your rubbers, dear.") The Indian and English usage is older than ours. Rubber gets its name from its use in rubbing out -- erasing -- unwanted pencil marks. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. &#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;&#4294967295;
Jerry Avins wrote:
> Let me add a little. Here in the US, although usually in the plural, > "rubber" also means overshoe. (Don't forget to wear your rubbers, > dear.")
I have an uncle who went to high school in the 60's. His English teacher was a very frail woman about <exageration>180</exageration> years old. The class was performing exercises on sentences the teacher read aloud. One sentence went something like this: "Mr Johnson, although he should have known better, left home without his rubbers." Upon hearing this, a big guy could not contain himself and burst into guffaws. The teacher knew full well his interpretation of the sentence and attempted to restore order. She crossed the room, grabbed the student by the shirt and attempted to give him a good shaking. She lacked sufficient strength (and mass) to effect any shaking in her target, and instead ended up shaking herself. At the sight of this, the rest of the class lost it too. -- Jim Thomas Principal Applications Engineer Bittware, Inc jthomas@bittware.com http://www.bittware.com (603) 226-0404 x536 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur. Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.
"Bhaskar Thiagarajan" <bhaskart@deja.com> wrote in message 
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> "Ron Huizen" <rhuizen@bittware.com> wrote in message > news:10vi1jv29hq2g54@corp.supernews.com... > > <Snipped> > >> >> On our latest board family, the T2 (for TigerSharc 2), we combine 4 >> >> ------------ >> >> Ron Huizen >> >> BittWare > > Hey Ron > Do you guys have a rubber TigerSharc yet? It's been ages since I visited > you > guys in a conference or something and haven't had a chance to add to my > (rubber) Sharc and Hammerhead collection. >
Nope, no (foam) rubber TigerSHARCs yet. I should mention it to S&M (sales & marketing hates it when I call them that) as they were pretty popular. I could break some fins off of the Hammerheads for you to represent our SharcFIN though :-) I'll most likely be at the Embedded Systems show on Analog Devices booth if you want to drop by. ---- Ron Huizen BittWare
Al Clark <dsp@danvillesignal.com> wrote:
> "Ron Huizen" <rhuizen@bittware.com> wrote in > news:10vhv3lsves4of5@corp.supernews.com: > > >> These chips emphasize CPU performance and on-chip memory at the > >> expense of on-chip I/O, which is limited to the four link ports and > >> the 64-bit local bus. > > > > When you say "at the expense of on-chip I/O" you must be meaning > > variety (as in serial ports, etc) as opposed to bandwidth, because > > those 4 links ports can run at 500 MBytes/sec each full duplex, plus > > the 64 bit bus can run at up to 125 MHz, providing an I/O bandwidth of > > up to 5 GBytes/second! > > > > On our latest board family, the T2 (for TigerSharc 2), we combine 4 > > TS201s with a VirtexII Pro FPGA (V2Pro30), connecting 2 full duplex > > links per DSP to the FPGA. The FPGA is also accesible from the DSPs > > over a parallel bus for control register access, etc. Using the links > > is extremely poweful, as the TigerSHARC has a dedicated DMA engine for > > each one, so you can use DMA to stream data to/from the FPGA in the > > background while the DSP core is doing it's own work. > > > > ------------ > > Ron Huizen > > BittWare > > > > > > WOW! Do your boards pass the Turing test yet? >
(un)fortunately most DSP boards are singularily unsuitable for implementing ai... -- Sander +++ Out of cheese error +++